How to find timings of excursions using Realtime trains

[Justin Smith]

Could anyone help me with this !
A couple of days ago SamGeorge helped me out with the timings for the York Yuletide Express with a link to its schedule on Realtime Trains.
There area few other steam tours coming up the ECML in the next week or so and I thought I`d try and find the timings for them myself on RTT. However, I must be doing something wrong because whatever I seem to do the system brings up all the scheduled services but not the excursions I`m interested in. Does anyone know what I`m doing wrong ? ! ?

Added 18 Dec 15.

You have to switch to Real Time Trains "Detailed" to get the excursions (and the freights), they`re not shown on the "Simple" results.

Added 7 Dec 16

Also try Open Train Times.

 

[causton]

Not really, as we don't know what you're doing!

Can you tell us what trains specifically you are looking for, and what you are typing into Realtime Trains to find them?

Some excursions do not get entered until fairly soon before the day, but next week's should show up...

 

[ilkestonian]

I read somewhere that there seems to be a problem with some excursions not showing up on Realtime Trains, or perhaps not showing until the last minute?

Possibly an issue with STP paths?

So it may not be you but an issue with RTT.

 

[Justin Smith]

Not really, as we don't know what you're doing!

Can you tell us what trains specifically you are looking for, and what you are typing into Realtime Trains to find them?

Some excursions do not get entered until fairly soon before the day, but next week's should show up...

Thanks.
SamGeorge has contacted me to tell me that none of the other three Railway Touring Company tours are on RTTs, so it`s no wonder I couldn`t find them.
Yet yesterdays Yuletide Express (also RTC) was on RTT, so it`s a strange one.
Apparently the tours are on OpenTrainTimes.com

 

[Bungle965]

Yes i have had a look for the one that you requested and I can not find it on RTT although i can find it on OTT.

I have sent you another pm.
Sam

 

[221129]

1Z51 0526 Cambridge to Edinburgh:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U52048/2015/12/19/advanced

1Z53 1647 Edinburgh to Cambridge
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U52051/2015/12/19/advanced
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Although according to the RTC website there is only 1 Railtour by them next weekend.

 

[Justin Smith]

1Z51 0526 Cambridge to Edinburgh:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U52048/2015/12/19/advanced

Ah that`s not the steam one is it ? The steam excursion with D of S is due to depart from Cambridge on the 17th at 07.41

 

[MarkyT]

For steam excursions and their related workings I refer to:
http://www.uksteam.info/tours/index.htm

When the confirmed timings appear on this site for the individual trains, the site includes the appropriate links to RTT.

For diesel specials, these are listed (along with steam trains) at:
http://www.railtourinfo.co.uk/diesel.html

Timings link to RTT in a similar way.

 

[46223]

44871 moved from Bury to York and then Grosmont last week. The times were not on RTT but they were on OTT.......strange.

 

[Mag_seven]

44871 moved from Bury to York and then Grosmont last week. The times were not on RTT but they were on OTT.......strange.

Also the stock move from Kilmarnock to Plymouth on Saturday was on OTT but not RTT. Hmmm

 

[Justin Smith]

I`m trying to find the times for tomorrow`s York Yuletide Express (London Victoria > Kettering > Melton M > York) but can`t find them on RTT. I`ve tried Open Train Times but my PC, not for the first time, won`t load the train times. On Internet Explorer the green "loading" bar moves extremely slowly before just freezing. On Chrome it reports "this page has a redirect loop" and "Err-too-many-redirects". Has anyone got any ideas, both on the timing of the YYE and the non working of OpenTrainTimes ? ! ?

 

[DarloRich]

Via the excellent UK Steam ( http://www.uksteam.info/tours/trs15.htm#twk) we ar epointed to this RTT link: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54243/2015/12/19/advanced

Edited highlights:

Victoria: 0631
St Albans: 0804
Luton: 0818
Bedford: 0842
Kettering: 0950
Melton: 1042
York: 1352

 

[Justin Smith]

Via the excellent UK Steam ( http://www.uksteam.info/tours/trs15.htm#twk) we ar epointed to this RTT link: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54243/2015/12/19/advanced

Thanks very much for that.

I think I just realised why RTT wasn`t bringing up the YYE. When I got to results you have to switch to "Detailed". On the default "Simple" there`s no departure shown between the 08.14 to Sutton and the 08.18 to Three Bridges ! The YYE leaves at 08.15.

Interestingly the Railway Touring Company website quotes :

After Chesterfield we take the old road to Rotherham and continue through Conisbrough to Doncaster. Here we join the East Coast Main Line and can expect a fast run to York, where we arrive in the early afternoon.

But RTT says it`s going via the Swinton & Knottingley (i.e. through Moorthorpe) !

 

[DarloRich]

Thanks very much for that.

I think I just realised why RTT wasn't bringing up the YYE. When I got to results you have to switch to "Detailed". On the default "Simple" there's no departure shown between the 08.14 to Sutton and the 08.18 to Three Bridges ! The YYE leaves at 08.15.

Interestingly the Railway Touring Company website quotes :

After Chesterfield we take the old road to Rotherham and continue through Conisbrough to Doncaster. Here we join the East Coast Main Line and can expect a fast run to York, where we arrive in the early afternoon.

But RTT says it's going via the Swinton & Knottingley (i.e. through Moorthorpe) !

yes: you need to switch to detailed setting to pick up freight and non passenger workings.

NR might not have been able to offer the path requested by the charter operator. The one used seems to be the standard routing for charters now as it is much quieter