HST coach disposals

[57Tonic]

Thought it was 42556 not 42256 when I saw it go past. I may be wrong as didn't log the numbers.

My records show 42256 as Scotrail and 42556 as Ely, but as always I could be wrong.

 

[43096]

My records show 42256 as Scotrail and 42556 as Ely, but as always I could be wrong.

I have 42256 as being at Wabtec for conversion - and 42556 has been reported elsewhere.

 

[Phil Scott]

I have converted the table to a list so that it’s easier to read.

 

[nat67]

20118+20132 5Q76 0736 Ely Papworth-Newport Sims 20/5/20

6338
42067
42260
42068
42062
42221
40207
6338

 

[St. Paddy]

Another move from Ely to Newport today, any details?

 

[fgwrich]

Another move from Ely to Newport today, any details?

The usual 20s (118/132) with 40207, 42221, 42062, 42068, 42260, 42067.

 

[St. Paddy]

The usual 20s (118/132) with 40207, 42221, 42062, 42068, 42260, 42067.

Many thanks

 

[59CosG95]

41149, 40801, 46012, 42583, 44078, 40106, 40808 & 41187 have all moved from Long Marston to Crewe HS, presumably sold to LSL; 47593 & 47805 picked them up earlier as 5Z47.

 

[fgwrich]

41149, 40801, 46012, 42583, 44078, 40106, 40808 & 41187 have all moved from Long Marston to Crewe HS, presumably sold to LSL; 47593 & 47805 picked them up earlier as 5Z47.

I can image the 408's will be for spares. Although I had a rather nice trip in the Pullman Dining on it last year, it's bodywork wasn't in the best of conditions. It subsequently had a Laira bodge to keep it going, but filler doesn't last forever!

 

[Phil Scott]

Some of the 408xx buffet cars were repainted in GWR green near the end of their service lives. Did they just paint over the rust, or did they have bodywork repairs? From the rake that went to Crewe today, I think 40801, 41149, 41187 and 42583 were green.

 

[DB]

Another one which mayhave been scrapped- 41043, a GNER TF which was damaaged in a shunting accident at NL in about 2005, and taken to Doncaster for repair. This was started then abandoned, and it remained there for a number of years, with a large hole in one side (could be seen from the station for a long time) - initially as a spares donor, then it was used as the testbed for the Chiltern plug-door design (one door only). It was removed from Doncaster on a low-loader in 2014 and reportedly went to Brush in Loughborough (don't now why, and not seen any definite confirmation of that). Anyone know whether it still exists, and if not where / when it was scrapped?

 

[59CosG95]

Another one which mayhave been scrapped- 41043, a GNER TF which was damaaged in a shunting accident at NL in about 2005, and taken to Doncaster for repair. This was started then abandoned, and it remained there for a number of years, with a large hole in one side (could be seen from the station for a long time) - initially as a spares donor, then it was used as the testbed for the Chiltern plug-door design (one door only). It was removed from Doncaster on a low-loader in 2014 and reportedly went to Brush in Loughborough (don't now why, and not seen any definite confirmation of that). Anyone know whether it still exists, and if not where / when it was scrapped?

My P5 Combined Volume still shows it as 'extant, but awaiting disposal' in Loughborough. I still have the 2019 version, so not sure yet if it's still there in the 2020 one.

 

[43 302]

My P5 Combined Volume still shows it as 'extant, but awaiting disposal' in Loughborough. I still have the 2019 version, so not sure yet if it's still there in the 2020 one.

Just had a quick look and it appears to be missing from the 2020 edition.

 

[fgwrich]

Well it's fair to say 42060 has been scrapped.

Mk3 TS 42060 Eastleigh Works 13th May 2020

 

[Ashley Hill]

I take it most things today are pulled apart by mechanical grab rather than cut with oxy-acetylene.

 

[Jamesrob637]

Well it's fair to say 42060 has been scrapped.

Mk3 TS 42060 Eastleigh Works 13th May 2020

Nah it's being transformed into a Mk3 cabriolet for summer excursion trains when lockdown is lifted gives a new meaning to an air-conditioned train!

 

[dmncf]

This Ely to Newport working passed me today: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K88721/2020-05-25/detailed

Unfortunately I couldn't read the Mk 3 coach numbers. It consists of:
- 47815 "Lost Boys 68-88" in Rail Operations Group blue with "Thank you NHS" vinyl
- Mk 1 "translator vehicle"
- Mk 3 TS in dynamic lines livery
- Mk 3 TS in dynamic lines livery
- Mk 3 TS coach letter F in dynamic lines livery
- Mk 3 first class and buffet coach letter K in dynamic lines livery
- Mk 3 TS in GWR livery
- Mk 3 TS coach letter H in dynamic lines livery
- Mk 1 "translator vehicle" QSA ADB977087
- Mk 1 "translator vehicle" QSA ADB975875

 

[DBS92042]

This Ely to Newport working passed me today: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K88721/2020-05-25/detailed

Unfortunately I couldn't read the Mk 3 coach numbers. It consists of:
- 47815 "Lost Boys 68-88" in Rail Operations Group blue with "Thank you NHS" vinyl
- Mk 1 "translator vehicle"
- Mk 3 TS in dynamic lines livery
- Mk 3 TS in dynamic lines livery
- Mk 3 TS coach letter F in dynamic lines livery
- Mk 3 first class and buffet coach letter K in dynamic lines livery
- Mk 3 TS in GWR livery
- Mk 3 TS coach letter H in dynamic lines livery
- Mk 1 "translator vehicle" QSA ADB977087
- Mk 1 "translator vehicle" QSA ADB975875

I believe the stock was 6344, 42028, 42031, 42006, 40722, 42512, 42098, ADB977087, ADB975875,

 

[ChilternTurbo]

I take it most things today are pulled apart by mechanical grab rather than cut with oxy-acetylene.

From pictures I've seen on Twitter of Mk4 stock being scrapped, Booths appear to do some initial cutting of bodywork with oxy-acetylene. I presume that a mechanical grab is then used. Those carriages also were pretty much stripped back to a bare body shell with all internal fitting and glazing removed. I've never seen any pictures of dismantling at Newport though...

 

[adc82140]

The photos on Carl Watson's blog show a fair bit of stripping at Eastleigh too. In one photo there's a skip next to one of the carriages marked "Wood". I guess they send as much for recycling as they can. Glazing units I daresay are needed as spares for the remaining mark 3s.

 

[DB]

They look to have removed the seats before breaking up. Any of them getting reused? The frames and shells at least would be perfectly usable.

 

[158747]

Earlier today I saw 47815 passing Alderton (between Swindon and Bristol Parkway) with another six former GWR HST Mk3s en route Ely - Newport Docks, it consisted of 47815 + barrier coaches ADB977087 ADB975875 + 42070 42043 42099 42272 42216 42283 + barrier coach 6344.

 

[nat67]

Earlier today I saw 47815 passing Alderton (between Swindon and Bristol Parkway) with another six former GWR HST Mk3s en route Ely - Newport Docks, it consisted of 47815 + barrier coaches ADB977087 ADB975875 + 42070 42043 42099 42272 42216 42283 + barrier coach 6344.

The headcode as always for that service is 5Q76 0736 Ely Papworth-Newport Sims.

 

[Jamesrob637]

Bet there's still a lot of stock in Ely given how much there was - even on Google Maps you can see rows and rows of the things!

 

[59CosG95]

There's another 5Z43 move from Ely Papworth to Eastleigh today; 66739 is doing the honours. https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K02041/2020-06-05/detailed
Consist: 40727, 40710, 42516, 40739, 44022 in between the barriers.

 

[Midnight Sun]

Noted at Peterborough today, five coach rake of ex GW Mk3 plus barriers coaches heading north through platform 5 from Ely before diverting on to the ECML noth of the station at 13.35

 

[59CosG95]

Noted at Peterborough today, five coach rake of ex GW Mk3 plus barriers coaches heading north through platform 5 from Ely before diverting on to the ECML noth of the station at 13.35

That would have been 5E23 to Doncaster Works. No idea of coach no's unfortunately.

 

[fgwrich]

That would have been 5E23 to Doncaster Works. No idea of coach no's unfortunately.

I can't I.D the coaches either unfortunately, however they were all TS's. So it looks like it will be TS's converted for ScotRail than the talked about TGS's.

47815. Into the rain ...........

5.6.2020. ROG liveried Class 47 No 47815 'Lost Boys 68-88' and with 'Thank you NHS' vinyls works north through Eaton Lane with the 11.49 Ely Papworth Sidings - Doncaster Works Wagon Shops (WABTEC). The train consisted of five ex First Great Western coaches for refurbishment and eventual...

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[Spirit555]

I can't I.D the coaches either unfortunately, however they were all TS's. So it looks like it will be TS's converted for ScotRail than the talked about TGS's.

47815. Into the rain ...........

5.6.2020. ROG liveried Class 47 No 47815 'Lost Boys 68-88' and with 'Thank you NHS' vinyls works north through Eaton Lane with the 11.49 Ely Papworth Sidings - Doncaster Works Wagon Shops (WABTEC). The train consisted of five ex First Great Western coaches for refurbishment and eventual...

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Quoted elsewhere as

47815 6344 42568 42351 42213 42575 42581 6330

HTH

Mark

 

[fgwrich]

Quoted elsewhere as

47815 6344 42568 42351 42213 42575 42581 6330

HTH

Mark

Brilliant, thank you Mark.