andel said:
Quite honestly I wish you'd all stop slagging the voyagers off... no, they not HST's and Mk3s... but to be honest, its better than some of the crap out there in other countries. I personally like the fact that now i get a table, a power socket for the laptop and a guarenteed space. Thats just me.
And before I get flammed for that comment, I'd thank you to remember opinions are like arseholes - everyones got one!
Ho-hum. Did I slander the Voyagers at all?
*Checks the log of posts, notes many slanderous posts on Voyagers, none relating to current thread*
I haven't dissed Voyagers, Meridians or Pioneers in this thread. The closest I came to it was my use of "No!" in an earlier post on page 2 of this thread, after it was suggested HST2 should be a MU. There are many good reasons why HST2 should not be a MU, most of which relate, for me at least, to personal experience of the 3rd gen DMU/DEMUs and to what other people have experienced with them. There's not much good about the Voyagers IMO, least of all being the underfloor engines, which DO cause vibration and noise in the floor, walls, seats and tables of the units. Even norms have voted with their feet and dissed the Voyagers as being cramped and uncomfortable.
Good luck finding a table in Coach F on a Voyager too, there's, to my memory, just 2 per coach, bar the one for the disabled passenger. On the subject of it, Coach F obviously being the Quiet Carriage, why is it Virgin's policy 'bans' mobile phones but not personal stereo equipment? The latter can be more disturbing than a mobile, especially if you are the unlucky soul who sits in the airline seat in front of, or even worse right next to, the rebellious teenager who insists on playing loud rap music or whatever BS they plan to permanently destroy their hearing with? I've been at the point of snatching their earphones from them and stamping/smashing/breaking them in anger. A Quiet Carriage is just that, quiet. In case anyone here happens to do just the above, if I have to sit anywhere near you, be prepared to turn your noise off or risk losing it altogether.
I have dissed Voyagers now, but I do have reason for it. HST2 should not, and had better not, be a MU. It will be a retrospective step in rail fleets if we have to suffer another 20 years of MUs on IC. I'd rather hang up my notebook and pen if HST2 were a MU than support it.
That's enough from me on the subject for now.