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Ian Allan Manchester bookshop to close

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Redundancy notices have been issued to the staff at the Ian Allan Manchester bookshop on Piccadilly Station Approach. The closure date is set for Saturday 18th June. The London and Birmingham shops are apparently to remain open.
 
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Redundancy notices have been issued to the staff at the Ian Allan Manchester bookshop on Piccadilly Station Approach. The closure date is set for Saturday 18th June. The London and Birmingham shops are apparently to remain open.

There was a thread about Ian Allen bookshops quite some time ago on this website where doubts were being expressed about the Manchester shop.
 

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Is the Cardiff shop still open?

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Oh dear,I was never a regular visitor, although i did pop in on numerous occasions and purchase a couple of different things. Will have to visit it again before it closes.
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That's a shame. I've been in there many times since I moved to Lancashire in 2008. I use to visit the Cardiff shop often when I lived in Wiltshire prior to that.
 

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It will be missed. I'm sure it's no coincidence that the Manchester branch is on railway ground whereas the other two are not.

My inside source within Ian Allan suggested that it was related to the leasing agreement.
 

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It's a sign of the times, I'm afraid. I have a feeling the ones that are left don't have long left.
 

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My inside source within Ian Allan suggested that it was related to the leasing agreement.

In which case why not move to somewhere else in the centre of Manchester? There are plenty of empty shops. Amazon is presumably partly to blame and has there perhaps also been a decline in book purchasing generally?
 
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Sad news. Nipped in for a quick browse just before Xmas, left 10 minutes and £200 lighter ;)

Wonder if ther'll be a clearance sale on their model railway stock :lol:
 

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Sad news. Nipped in for a quick browse just before Xmas, left 10 minutes and £200 lighter ;)

Wonder if ther'll be a clearance sale on their model railway stock :lol:

When chain shops close a branch and have a closing down sale, they normally send all the good stuff to their other branches and import a load of old "tat" to be supposedly discounted for the sale!
 

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Gutting, Manchester's my favourite Ian Allen store. Birmingham never has anything in it I want and Cardiff went the same way years back when I gave up going in.

Granted, these days it's easier for me to go and order my new NREA online. I've always bought my foreign books from Ian Allen though (actually I think I had to order my Benelux book online, due to time constraints back then) and I will miss having it there. Sadly it's not open on Sundays, which is when I'm normally up there and have more than 5 minutes to spare now.
 

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I think I'll be sad to see it go. There's a young chap who works there who is very polite and friendly - a credit to Ian Allan - but some of the other staff over the years have not really been suited to customer-facing roles. Just a few weeks ago I was served by a woman who struggled to even speak, never mind smile. No hello, please or thank you - despite my initial smile and hello to her. Perhaps I browsed too long and only spent £20.00, who knows. But when a supplier - who she clearly knew - entered the shop, she became very chatty and engaging with them. Perhaps it was just the customers she reserved her contempt for. The lack of warmth from the staff - and I'm afraid I have to say the overbearing whiff from a few of the customers (which I suppose might go some way to explaining the staff morale :lol:) has meant that I have often bought elsewhere in recent times. Of course, profitabilty might not be an issue as intimated above, and my comments have no bearing, but I think the shop staff could have done more to make customers a little more welcome over the years.
 

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But some of the other staff over the years have not really been suited to customer-facing roles. Just a few weeks ago I was served by a woman who struggled to even speak, never mind smile. No hello, please or thank you - despite my initial smile and hello to her. Perhaps I browsed too long and only spent £20.00, who knows.

I must agree with these expressed sentiments. Whist the range of items sold was very good, the experience was spoilt by the poor retail attitude of the staff at the Manchester shop.
 

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Although I've almost always used the Birmingham one, I have been to the one in Mancc before and it's a shame to see that the end for it is here.
 

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Dead disappointed about this. I have tried to put as much custom their way as I can buying my magazines there rather than W.H.S and love to browse the books to see what is new in. They also cover obscure stuff which if I am feeling flush I would buy as a treat.:cry:
 

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In which case why not move to somewhere else in the centre of Manchester? There are plenty of empty shops. Amazon is presumably partly to blame and has there perhaps also been a decline in book purchasing generally?

I've been a bookseller for the past 30 years. The printed book, as opposed to Kindle upload, is still in fine fettle, sales by volume being up last year from 2014. However, the bookshop in this and some other countries, like the USA, is in terminal decline, in this country hit first by the ending of the Net Book Agreement, which saw the likes of Tesco and Asda creaming off the bestselling titles 20 years ago, and, of course, the rise of Amazon in the last 15 years, particularly the last 5 or 6. Some countries, like France, protect their bookshops to an extent at least with some success, but in market-orientated GB all we get is waffle about how important bookshops are, particularly the rapidly-disappearing independent, with absolutely no financial input, the only miserly concession being some may be able to claim the business rate reliefs available to all shops below a certain rateable value.

On the subject of transport books, what proportion of them are given any discount whatsoever by Amazon? I would say less than a sixth, and, even then, usually by 10% or less. So everyone who goes to a bookshop, looks at the books on display, then decides to purchase one, but not there and then, but later online with Amazon, cannot then complain when the shop no longer finds it viable to keep going. Cause and effect! Now you won't know whether that book is worth buying until Yodel or whoever has made the delivery. A shame for those who didn't contribute to this situation, but, for everyone else, you've made your bed, etc.
 

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On the subject of transport books, what proportion of them are given any discount whatsoever by Amazon? I would say less than a sixth, and, even then, usually by 10% or less. So everyone who goes to a bookshop, looks at the books on display, then decides to purchase one, but not there and then, but later online with Amazon, cannot then complain when the shop no longer finds it viable to keep going. Cause and effect! Now you won't know whether that book is worth buying until Yodel or whoever has made the delivery. A shame for those who didn't contribute to this situation, but, for everyone else, you've made your bed, etc.

Strangely, it tends to be Ian Allan's own books that I buy off Amazon rather from their own shop - the books I buy from the shop tend to be ones that I can't obtain easily elsewhere. Take for example, one of their recently published books, Diesel & Electric Locomotives for Scrap. Ian Allan are charging £35.00 for it if I buy it direct from them, either in their shop or online. Alternatively, I can buy it from Amazon for £22.75. To requote, Ian Allan have made their bed....
 

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I have bought plenty from Ian Allan, Manchester, ever since it opened. My book purchases will probably decline, as I like to inspect the contents of books before I purchase (always from the shop, never on line.) I also visit Birmingham a few times each year, so there will still be a specialist transport book shop available to me..

The main "chain" bookshops generally have a very poor range of transport books - often confined to a couple of "glossy, coffee-table" type books, rather than something of real interest.
 

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I have bought plenty from Ian Allan, Manchester, ever since it opened. My book purchases will probably decline, as I like to inspect the contents of books before I purchase (always from the shop, never on line.)

Many will agree with your sentiment about being in the shop and inspecting the books before purchase. I must confess that I have bought a good selection of rail atlases from the Manchester shop in the past.
 

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Spotting books, unless it's simply the updated version of the NREA (in which case I know what to expect, except for some of the pages in my copy being binded badly <(), I will always have a look at first before ordering. Most especially if it's from a new company I've never ordered from before. This also applies to new atlases, one reason why I haven't yet got the most recent Baker is because my cursory glance at one on 2015's annual railtour showed, quite frankly, a new layout that I don't like!

One hopes it'll go back to the previous layout, although equally I'll have another look soon enough too, in case it's grown on me. Of course, I'll be getting it from Ian Allen, before you ask!
 

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It's a shame it's going. I must admit, I don't tend to buy many books now due to the price (I don't do the Amazon thing). I have bought a few books from them over the years, although there haven't been many good bargains of late. The range of books didn't seem so good as in past years.
 
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