If you could create any direct services which currently don’t run which would you choose?

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  1. CMS

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    That is true and I am astounded at how each time I have been on a 350/going through Watford Junction how many people have advance tickets all the way to Coventry/Birmingham! I imagine with these extensions there'll be a fair few people trundling along the slows all the way to Walsall.
     
  2. Thebaz

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    Here's a potential 'express' Overground one for you: :lol: Perhaps a continuation of the Highbury & Islington - West Croydon services:
    West Croydon, Wallington, Carshalton Beeches, Sutton, St Helier, Wimbledon, Haydon's Road, Tooting, Balham, Clapham Juntion, Imperial Wharf, West Brompton, Kensington Olympia, Shepherd's Bush, Willesden Junction, West Hampstead, Upper Holloway, Crouch Hill, Haringey Green Lanes, South Tottenham, Lea Bridge, Stratford.
     
  3. Thebaz

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    I like the idea of trains that link inner city areas with the countryside or areas of interest without having to change. To that end I would propose services to get people out into the Surrey and Kent countryside on summer Saturdays and Sundays! 1 - Starting at London Bridge (mainly because it has to start *somewhere*): Peckham Rye, North Dulwich, Tulse Hill, Crystal Palace, Norwood Junction, East Croydon, South Croydon, Purley Oaks, Redhill, Reigate, Dorking West, Gomshall, Shalford, Guildford, Ash, Aldershot, Farnham, Alton.
    2 - Same calling pattern to Redhill, Nutfield, Godstone, Edenbridge, Tonbridge, Paddock Wood, Wateringbury, Maidstone West.

    Yeah, I know. It'll never happen!
     
  4. telstarbox

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    Thameslink to Sevenoaks often has walkers and cyclists (including me!) going to the countryside at weekends.
     
  5. FenMan

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    When the Class 769s turn up on the North Downs Line extending the Reading - Gatwicks to Brighton would be handy.
     
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    How about a triangular service, Hayes to Harlington, Harlington to Hayes & Harlington, and Hayes & Harlington to Hayes. Worth it just for the confusion :s
     
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    Well, this doesn’t run as it’s impossible to but I would like to see Bristol Airport linked by rail to Temple Meads in the future, divulging from the main line somewhere between Parson Street and Nailsea (or just after the latter) to as close to the terminal building as possible. If geography prevents this then a shuttle bus should run from the station to the terminal.
     
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    Bristol Airport sounds like an ideal application for an express tram using railway land as far as possible, rather than the Edinburgh debacle of a very expensive final leg to the airport after a long slow all-stops journey out from the city. Either that, or a people-mover connecting into a good regional metro (heavy rail) service.
     
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    Just so it could be done Penzance to Thurso. National Express at one time operated a coach service between Penzance and Inverness and apparently there was talk of extending it to Thurso. They also operated a service between Gatwick and Aberdeen. So if a coach company can do it a train company could do it. I'll get my coat.

    Source: Former head of Corporate Affairs at National Express
     
  10. Voyager lad

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    I think running a maybe twice daily TPE service from Manchester Airport up to Stirling and Perth, and maybe even onwards to Dundee, Aberdeen or Inverness could be useful. If the 185s were retained it could run as a 6 car 185 and split at Gleneagles (not Perth as the lines diverge for Aberdeen and Inverness before the station). 3 carriages to Inverness and 3 for Aberdeen. Maybe twice daily.
     
  11. Voyager lad

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    Another useful service could be Stirling - London Euston. Could be run with a Pendolino once the wires are live. Would create new daytime links from Stirling to Carlisle, the Lake District and the Midlands.
     
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    Hull to Birmingham
    Hull to Liverpool
    Liverpool to Cardiff/Bristol via Hereford
    Hull to Edinburgh
    Manchester to Workington
    Sunderland to Manchester via Hartlepool
    Northampton to Manchester
    Leicester to Leeds
    Leicester to Manchester via Chesterfield
    Derby to Manchester via Stoke
    Newcastle to Leicester
    Nottingham to Glasgow via Leeds and York and Edinburgh
    Reading to Milton Keynes via Watford Junc
    Cambridge/Norwich to Leeds
     
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    Silly suggestion: London Waterloo to Tiverton Parkway calling at Clapham Junction, Surbiton, Cobham, Guildford (reverse), Farnborough North, Reading, Westbury, Bruton, Castle Cary, Taunton. Operated using redundant Highland Sleeper stock with restored class 50s. Runs on Thursday evenings (down) and Monday evenings (up) to transport second-homers between their commuter-pads and countryside getaways.
     
  14. Killingworth

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    Not necessarily so off the wall when you see how long distance trains operate elsewhere around the globe.

    A restored HST with uprated accommodation, dining, sleeping cars and routed via Edinburgh, York, Bath etc. Join anywhere en route, running weekly. Dream on

    However, I've just checked the practicality and the return trip can be done in scheduled trains taking only 4 days. Possibly only 2 changes and not outrageous cost.
     
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    And would remain almost as long, even running non stop Carnforth-Skipton-Leeds (which isn't realistic), unless you upgraded the whole route for 90mph.
     
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    • Preston - Lancaster - Bare Lane - Morecambe - Carnforth - Oxenholme - then all stations to Windermere;
    • Holyhead to Hull Paragon (calling at Bangor, Llandudno Junction, Colwyn Bay, Rhyl, Prestatyn, Chester, Runcorn East, Warrington Bank Quay, Newton-le-Willows, Manchester Victoria, Ashton-under-Lyne, Stalybridge, Huddersfield, Dewsbury, Leeds, Selby, and Brough);
    • Wakefield Westgate - Manchester Piccadilly - Manchester Victoria circular (via Ordsall Curve, then calling at all stations from Wakefield Kirkgate to Stalybridge, Guide Bridge, Manchester Piccadilly, Manchester Oxford Road, Manchester Victoria, and all stations back to Wakefield Westgate from Ashton-under-Lyne).
     
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    Are we trying to draw number 8s?
     
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    OK, let’s just do Axminster-Looe and be done with it.

    Brighton-Norwich via the TL Core.

    Heathrow to Aylesbury. Somehow.

    Brighton to Ashford Intl and Oxford, running via Gatwick, then dividing at Redhill. One portion semi-fast via Reading to Oxford, one portion semi-fast via Tonbridge to Ashford. 8 coach trains or similar, to split in the bay at Redhill.

    Bognor Regis to Northampton via Dorking, Sutton and Clapham Junction. To use the slow line spurs at Streatham to eliminate conflict whilst reaching Falcon Junction.

    Extra-Outer South London service loop via the Arrival / Departure Roads at Selhurst (signalled as they are for passenger traffic). To run Victoria-London Bridge via Selhurst and Norwood Jn.

    “Missing link” filled in between Tattenham Corner and Epsom Downs. Then a new Purley-London (somewhere) service via Epsom Downs.

    Peak-time and selected Saturday Uckfield or East Grinstead services (don’t mind which) extended to Charing Cross via London Bridge.

    New service from Euston via the NLL (somehow or other...) to Leeds, more like a LNWR stopping service equivalent, including a couple of stops in North London.
     
  19. 7ftBroad

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    Peterborough to Brighton via Canal tunnel and the core, no timetable or weekend work. Enjoy the excitement of wondering if you will get to your destination and home without a change at Reading and Crewe.
     
  20. cactustwirly

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    Technically Leicester already has a direct service to Leeds...
     
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    Lincoln-Sheffield -Manchester-Liverpool, this would give a fast service from Lincoln to Sheffield and he onward journey would avoid any reverse at Sheffield. From Lincoln
    the route could be extended from Lincoln to say Grimsby and Cleethorpes giving an alternative to the current service
     
  22. Killingworth

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    This will be one of the options for a third Hope Valley fast service when the Hope Valley Capacity Scheme is finally completed, possibly in 2021 if they get started next year.

    Other options for that service are, of course, available.
     
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    1) Liverpool Lime Street-Ormskirk-Preston-Blackburn-Burnley Central-Colne.

    Would require through-running to be possible at Ormskirk.

    (If the Colne-Skipton line were reopened, you could run the service from Liverpool to Skipton and call it the 'The A59, But A Train' line) :D

    2) Whitby-Middlesbrough-Darlington-Bishop Auckland, Whitby-Middlesbrough-Sunderland-Newcastle and Whitby-Middlesbrough-Durham-Newcastle.

    Just a couple of extensions/[combinations of services] per day in each direction during the summer.

    3) Nottingham-Derby-Stoke-Crewe-Wrexham-Chester

    (With a reopening, this could be Nottingham-Derby-Stoke-Stafford-Newport-Telford-Shrewsbury.)

    4) Cleethorpes-Grimsby-Brigg-Gainsborough-Retford-Worksop-Mansfield-Nottingham-Derby
     
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  24. Plasmanoodle

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    Not necessarily a direct service, but a re-extension of the Cross Country franchise to Swansea!
     
  25. SteveyBee131

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    This sounds brilliant! Especially with the Cleethorpes extension :D shame it's only a pipe dream;)
     
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    Glasgow to Central to Leeds via settle .
    Glasgow to Nottingham , only has to be once or twice a day .
     

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