Important Breathing Technique for those with Coronavirus

[Wilts Wanderer]

https://youtu.be/HwLzAdriec0

An NHS doctor at Queens Hospital demonstrates a potentially life-saving breathing technique for people who have or think they might have Coronavirus.

This could be really important advice for some people so I’m trying to spread it as far and wide as possible. Please consider sharing on social media.

(Mods - please let me know if this doesn’t comply with forum guidelines but hopefully it does.)

 

[Darandio]

Never mind whether it complies or not, they need to sticky it.

 

[Wilts Wanderer]

Never mind whether it complies or not, they need to sticky it.

+1

If they could it would be good I think.

 

[Trackman]

+2
Thanks

 

[Cowley]

OK. Firstly - We’re not a medical health forum and there’s no actual official confirmation that this is the correct advice even though it looks fairly legitimate. This could cause us problems if we make it a sticky as it will seem that we’re recommending it. Not our place to do so...
Secondly - If you think we should be doing something please contact us and talk to us about it (we’re very nice honest ).
Thirdly - We’re all looking for information about this situation and the team are currently moderating a whole load of stuff in this section that we had no idea about six months ago and we’ll always err on the side of caution rather than get it wrong and regret it later. We’re doing our best...
Fourthly - Thanks.

 

[Bantamzen]

An NHS doctor at Queens Hospital demonstrates a potentially life-saving breathing technique for people who have or think they might have Coronavirus.

This could be really important advice for some people so I’m trying to spread it as far and wide as possible. Please consider sharing on social media.

(Mods - please let me know if this doesn’t comply with forum guidelines but hopefully it does.)

Just following up on the mod's comment above, if this is a legitimate method perhaps someone ought to reach out to this doctor and ask them to have it included on these official pages:

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/

Social media is not the best place for spreading this kind of advice, no matter how quickly one thread can accumulate views.

 

[reddragon]

If you look at any video of an Italian hospital during the peak when they ran out of equipment, all of the patients are on their fronts doing exactly this to survive.

 

[Esker-pades]

This is a prime example of why people shouldn't rush. This video was fact-checked, and they can’t say with certainty whether the advice is effective or not. It does seem to have helped some people manage their symptoms, but it isn’t universally accepted as the best technique. It may not help, or even exacerbate underlying conditions.

The video is real and the man featured is a doctor. A medical body has responded to the video saying that, while the advice is not harmful, it may not be helpful and that there are better exercises to do.

Dr Munshi [the author] reportedly later told The Times that the advice wasn’t for everyone, should not be taken alone and if people have the symptoms of Covid-19 they should seek medical advice.

He also specifically said that pregnant women could harm their baby if they laid on their front

...the Association of Chartered Physiotherapists in Respiratory Care (ACPRC) told us: “The cough associated with coronavirus is usually a dry, non-productive cough, so taking deep breaths and coughing is unlikely to help at all.”

“If you have the symptoms of coronavirus and do have a persistent dry cough, there is no reason to make yourself cough after taking deep breaths.”

It added: “Deep breathing exercises for people with underlying lung conditions such as [Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease] are not advocated by respiratory physiotherapists as it can make their underlying condition worse.”

It said that lying on your front “has been shown to be beneficial in people who have much more advanced illness” but that “there isn’t much evidence that this will help if you are well enough to stay at home” and said it was “concerned that some people may struggle to get in or out of this position without help, for very little benefit.”

Source:
https://fullfact.org/health/viral-coronavirus-breathing-advice-needs-context/

 

[reddragon]

It was a Doctor from Queens in Romford

https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/07/doct...lped-jk-rowling-recover-coronavirus-12519409/

Doctor reveals breathing technique that helped JK Rowling recover from coronavirus

 

[Esker-pades]

It was a Doctor from Queens in Romford

https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/07/doct...lped-jk-rowling-recover-coronavirus-12519409/

No source has disputed that.

 

[yorkie]

It was a Doctor from Queens in Romford

That doesn't mean the technique is universally recommended.

This is a prime example of why people shouldn't rush. This video was fact-checked, and they can’t say with certainty whether the advice is effective or not. It does seem to have helped some people manage their symptoms, but it isn’t universally accepted as the best technique. It may not help, or even exacerbate underlying conditions.

Agreed.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...ou-should-really-do-for-your-health-right-now

...However, Laura Breach, a spokeswoman for the Association of Chartered Physiotherapists in Respiratory Care (ACPRC), says while the exercises should be harmless for healthy individuals, she would not advise them, adding that they could make symptoms worse in someone suffering breathlessness. Although Munshi’s video was well-intentioned, the ACPRC says the techniques are not correct (it is preparing its own video). If you did try the exercise, you only need to take three or four breaths so as not to hyperventilate and become dizzy, and if you have coronavirus symptoms, there is no need to make yourself cough as part of the exercise. “We would always encourage nose-breathing rather than mouth-breathing, because your nose is really important in humidifying the air that you breathe in and catching any particles in the air,” says Breach.....

And regardless of whether or not anyone has the virus, it's a good idea to prepare yourself by:

...avoid anything that damages your lungs – stop smoking, and don’t expose others to secondhand smoke. “Open fires are not great...

...reduce your alcohol consumption, exercise, sleep well and reduce stress. A varied, balanced diet, with lots of vegetables and fruit, is important...

...Getting out in the sun each day can also be beneficial....

I don't need to stop smoking but I am doing the other things; I walked for 10 miles in lovely sunny weather today and I would encourage others to get plenty of exercise and sunshine if you are in a position to be able to.

If you do get the virus you should:

Rest as soon as you start to notice symptoms
Many people who are suspected of having had the virus report at least one day of fatigue. Now is not the time to try to tough things out. “Your body is using all its energy to fight a virus that is infecting cell after cell,” says Khan. “Even with mild symptoms, you’ll have some days when you feel fine and other days when you are tired and achey. You can potter around the house and make food if you need to, but you shouldn’t be doing any more than that and, where possible, you should be on the sofa or in bed.”

Keep drinking fluids
When you have a fever, says Saira Ghafur, an honorary respiratory consultant at St Mary’s hospital in London, “you can become dehydrated, so you need to make sure that even if you don’t feel like it, you’re drinking as much as possible.

How to manage a fever
Take paracetamol, rather than ibuprofen.

Definitely don’t rely on supplements or ‘miracle’ cures
Khan has seen advice online about taking vitamin C to treat coronavirus – but that doesn’t mean you should be trying this at home. “It has been used intravenously in very, very high doses in hospitals in China. That’s a big difference to what you get in a tablet. The jury is still very much out in terms of using intravenous vitamin C for coronavirus.”

Full article: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...ou-should-really-do-for-your-health-right-now