Into Southend one way and out the other

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I'm sure this must have been asked before, but I can't find it in the searches.

1.What if I want to go on a Saturday or Sunday to Southend Central from Fenchurch St and return from Southend Victoria to Liverpool St or vice-versa. Is there a cheaper way than two singles?

2. Same question, but I have a Z6 Travelcard.

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John
 
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A Boundary Zone 6 to Southend Stations Off Peak Day Return costing 11.60 without railcard.

There is no equivalent for London Terminals - All tickets from London have specific destination SOuthend Central or Southend Victoria.
 

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A Boundary Zone 6 to Southend Stations Off Peak Day Return costing 11.60 without railcard.

There is no equivalent for London Terminals - All tickets from London have specific destination SOuthend Central or Southend Victoria.
That was quick. Reason was today/yesterday at Fenchurch St I asked for 'a Boundary 6 to Southend day return'. I got an £8.40 day return from Upminster. Should I have been more specific?
 

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That was quick. Reason was today/yesterday at Fenchurch St I asked for 'a Boundary 6 to Southend day return'. I got an £8.40 day return from Upminster. Should I have been more specific?
Possibly. The clerk probably thought he was doing you a favour selling a cheaper ticket. Had you explained that you wanted to return the other way then hopefully he should have given you what you actually asked for.
 

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Odd

I'm sure that last year sometime I bought an off peak day return at Liverpool Street from London terminals to Shoeburyness, route any permitted, and travelled out via Shenfield and back to Fenchurch Street. No problems at either Victoria or Central or from the gripper on the train. The route appeared in the journey planner.

However I can't replicate it today. Has the validity changed?
 

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Odd

I'm sure that last year sometime I bought an off peak day return at Liverpool Street from London terminals to Shoeburyness, route any permitted, and travelled out via Shenfield and back to Fenchurch Street. No problems at either Victoria or Central or from the gripper on the train. The route appeared in the journey planner.

However I can't replicate it today. Has the validity changed?
Shoeburyness is a member of Southend Group.

London Group - Southend Group is permitted on map EA or TS.

EA: London Liverpool Street - Romford - Shenfield - Southend Group
TS: London Fenchurch Street - C2C Lines - Southend Group

London Liverpool Street - Romford - Upminster - Southend Group (36.5 miles) is also permitted as it is no more than 3 miles longer than the shortest route (35.75 miles). (I have discounted the distance between Southend Central and Shoeburyness as the conclusion is the same regardless.)

The routes you described above are both valid, still.

If you couldn't replicate it literally today it could possibly to down to the originally planned engineering works between Barking and Upminster. The work was cancelled but the online timetables might not have been amended.
 

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Regarding the original point, one option is to buy the ticket from somewhere just beyond the London Terminals station group, such as Essex Road. From there it is possible to buy a return to Southend Stns. However, it is far more expensive than opting for the Boundary Zone ticket.

I would have answered the other point but I knew bb21 would beat me to it (I only found this thread by spying on him in this first place :lol:). I had the same problem from thorpe Bay not so long ago. All the evidence suggests it is an error.

Also permitted is travelling via Emerson Park when going from Fenchurch Street to Central, and also both routes on the Tilbury loop. Plenty of options out there!
 
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