Is there likely to be a Valenta HST farewell tour?

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  1. 43034 The Black Horse

    43034 The Black Horse Established Member

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    Enough :)

    It's in to double figures and they have have salvaged others for useful parts too.
     
  2. junglejames

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    Would i be right in thinking the 125 group are wanting to stick with the stereotype?!
    Preserved trains are often seen as not as reliable. The 125 group are going to make sure that isnt just a stereotype, but a reality!!!
    They may be good engines, but were getting hellishly unreliable and uneconomical towards the end.
     
  3. ralphchadkirk

    ralphchadkirk Established Member

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    You've changed your tune !!
     
  4. spark001uk

    spark001uk Established Member

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    I doubt they'd just throw the lump in as it is, it would probably get a thorough servicing at the very least, maybe even a strip/rebuild. Be positive!

    Oh and happy christmas to one and all !!
     
  5. Hydro

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    They were also being worked daily on hard service runs, finding themselves more and more essentially non-standard within fleets. A number of Valentas in preservation will probably find themselves with a bit more TLC in maintenance, and with more downtime to be tinkered with. I doubt preserved HST's will suddenly find themselves doing a thousand plus miles a day topping out at 125mph.
     
  6. Crossforth

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    Aren't preserved/ private diesels limited to a certain speed anyway?

    (Merry Christmas everybody :D)
     
  7. Hydro

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    On preserved lines, yes, but I don't think getting a preserved HST practically fresh out of service recertified for the mainline would be as much of an issue as say trying to get a 37 back on the mainline after 20 years rotting in a yard.
     
  8. scotsman

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    Who will buy HSTs when they come out of service?

    My money's on West Coast Railways, 125 Group, DRS and a few private groups.

    The Royal Train could be adapted to work with Cl43s
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    50 miles a day, topping out at 25mph!
     
  9. 43034 The Black Horse

    43034 The Black Horse Established Member

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    Yea, that's it. Using non approved parts, not bothering with maintenance, being incompetent. Many people don't know what went I on (I dont claim to know everything, far from it but the basics I know prove you otherwise).

    An engine WON'T be reliable, if you don't maintain it. Towards the end, there was no need to maintain them as they were off for MTU-age soon (FGW).

    GC were a farce from the start with their maintenance. Funny how EMT have one of the most reliable fleet out there and they use Paxman engines.

    All shows what can be done with good maintenance.

    EMT's Valentas were pretty reliable from the off, and towards the end.

    So in answer to your question, you are wrong. :roll:
     
  10. junglejames

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    Crikey, a tongue in cheek comment, and all hell breaks loose!!
    Just winding the crank a bit more, pulling you all in!! Oh that was so so funny!

    In response to a couple of points though. Ive changed my tune? How? When did i say that i didnt like MTUs? Ive never denied MTUs have given HSTs a new lease of life.
    I also realise maintenance would have had a big part to play in the unreliability of the Valentas.
    As for quoting EMTs current fleet. Thats a poor argument. I never mentioned VP185s. I mentioned Valentas.
    And me being wrong? Nope, i wasnt. I may have said it tongue in cheek, but i wasnt wrong. They were getting unreliable (It may have been down to bad maintenance, but the quote "They were getting unreliable towards the end" is definately right. I never said the unreliability couldnt be rectified) and as for being very thirsty girls. Thats definitely not wrong.
    Anyway, i'll keep reeling you lot in. Like a load of fish swimming straight for the bait.

    Merry Christmas!
     
  11. 43034 The Black Horse

    43034 The Black Horse Established Member

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    No, you were wrong. As I said. my full post was "In answer to your question..". Not "in answer to your wibble below the question."
     
  12. 37401

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    Scotsman, preserved locos arnt limited to 50 miles per day, the MNR has 100mi running days and the SVR has 65mi
     
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