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takno

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The Class 484 trains will be retired long before we ever think about replacing third rail.
Portable fusion drives will be providing almost unlimited energy on demand before we make a concerted effort to get rid of third rail.
 

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They will be trucked all the way from Eastleigh to Sandown where they will re-rail it there then it will go to Ryde St Johns from there
Please bear in mind you’re replying to a post from Jan 2020, what is obvious today wasn’t back then…
 

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I tried to get a PhD doing this sort of thing, unfortunately I missed my 2.1 so lost the place and had to do another masters degree!

Pity, that looked like a fun project.
I think your job designing the Supa-dupa hyper nuclear grid looks more of a challenge tbh
 

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A reminder that this thread is for discussion of the actual infrastructure upgrade on the Island line.

I've moved some posts that were discussing the wider speculative issue of converting 3rd rail to 25kv to this existing thread.
 
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There does seem to be a push to get a rail link into Newport, potentially Riverside area, although not necessarily on its previous route. 3rd rail will be out of the equation on the IOWSR. The two existing railways could work well together if the mainline stock was battery, diesel or some other power. Potentially in the mix if any extensions come to light in the next 10-20 years
 

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There does seem to be a push to get a rail link into Newport, potentially Riverside area, although not necessarily on its previous route. 3rd rail will be out of the equation on the IOWSR. The two existing railways could work well together if the mainline stock was battery, diesel or some other power. Potentially in the mix if any extensions come to light in the next 10-20 years
How well is that proposed line already covered by Southern Vectis buses and what frequency do they operate?
 

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How well is that proposed line already covered by Southern Vectis buses and what frequency do they operate?
What does that matter? Who would want to pay an expensive Vectis fare to be thrown about in a bus for half an hour if there were a rail alternative?

But this is taking the thread in a speculative direction, nothing to do with the current upgrade...
 

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What does that matter? Who would want to pay an expensive Vectis fare to be thrown about in a bus for half an hour if there were a rail alternative?

But this is taking the thread in a speculative direction, nothing to do with the current upgrade...
Neither is the comment to which I answered concerning a speculative line into Newport.....You are right, I should NOT have answered that posting, but just to have pressed the "report button"

How many Southern Vectis bus services have you been on when you have been "thrown about" and if matters are as bad as you say, is it not time the Traffic Commissioners were involved. Can you say how many recent cases have come before the courts when matters as you state have led to injury to passengers?

Glad to see that you feel that many local station stops will be provided..... :p
 

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Hoping that this will stop the comments about reopening to Newport, on which there was a thread only a few months ago. The Ryde-Newport buses are every ten minutes on a weekday and quarter-hourly on a Sunday or Bank Holiday. They go through the centre of Ryde and its suburb of Binstead, through the village of Wootton and, alternately, into Newport though a built-up part of it. The railway misses most of that, although it does serve the small village of Haven Street. As a daily user of the service I have rarely been thrown about as the road is quite good and speeding rare: the main problem tends to be idiot drivers who stop or change lanes without warning.

There really isn’t the traffic for reopening to Newport, even if it was easily possible. It is probably technically possible, but not cheaply or easily. Anyone wanting to pursue this subject further should look at reopening the Reversing Beeching: Isle of Wight Proposals thread.
 
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As there will be no services for a while, is additional work being carried out e.g painting stations and work on the pier
Yes, additional work on stations making use of the increased time available was announced by SWR some months ago - post #447 refers.

I think work on the pier structure, (apart from the platform raising at Pier Head station), is on a different and separate timescale though.
 

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A presentation by OSL to the 'Railway Civil Engineers Association' about the upgrade, it's an hour long but those already familiar with the project can probably skip the first 20min. Questions at the end are interesting, seems there was plenty of interest!

An interesting comment at 50:33 - S&C for a connection at Smallbrook was procured but wasn't installed, apparently due to design issues... but there are still plans to use it for the works to Ryde Pier.

Also only platform 1 at Brading is bi-directional which presumably explains why only one signal needs a route indicator, and they've cut out around 1.2m of rail at 1200 joints to remove the dips.

 
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