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  1. Ivo

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    Hello all,

    As you will (hopefully) be aware, I am in the process of writing a novel, as explained here. This novel is now in its third incarnation, with the first being a completed piece of roughly 35,000 words and the second never finished, and was first inspired by a short story I wrote for a college competition in early 2007. Now, it will be brought forward for real, and I hope to release the finished version - all 70,000+ words of it - not later than October 30th next year!

    If I may, I would like to use this thread as a "press release" measure for giving updates on my work. Come this evening, I will have an important announcement to make, and even plan to provide a copy of the opening 2,000 words or so!

    I would like to thank you all in advance for any constructive suggestions and criticisms you may have, and for your patience. In the meantime though, if you haven't already, please read my thread "A request relating to Brighton station" - and if you are able to provide help, it would be much appreciated.

    Lastly, please note that this thread's name will change upon the upcoming news release to reflect my novel's title. Also, please note that I will not post on this thread again until the time to reveal all arrives later today. I intend to make the all-important announcement at precisely 1900 hours tonight.

    Stay tuned...!
     
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  3. Paul Sidorczuk

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    Only I, at 0415, could respond to a first posting of 0342 to you..:D:D

    Looking forward to more information...as and when.
     
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    Looking forward to 1900 my friend i will be lurking and waiting with beited breath. all the best and happy writing.
     
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    *** Official News Release, posted at 1900 on Monday, 21st November 2011 ***

    Good evening, ladies and gentlemen of the esteemed RailUK Forums. I trust you are all keeping well.

    Nearly five years have passed since I wrote a short story by the name of Sam's Mysterious Condition, penned specifically for a competition at College (which it went on to win), and since then I have taken the inspiration of that short piece and transformed it into a fully-fledged 35,000-word adult novella. And now, more than three years since the first version of this novella was completed, I feel that the time is right to officially announce my work to the public domain!

    Set in the middle of the 21st Century, the Tornado Trilogy tells the story of "Samism", a mysterious new religion based on the teachings of a being known only as Sam, who taught that love, light and hope are the most powerful things in existence, and that upon his death a new Heiress to Samism will be born. The trilogy consists of Amy's Reverie, The Mystery of Clarence Street and The Cherubic Chastisement.

    Upon its completion (scheduled for some time during the first half of next year), the full version of Amy's Reverie will be at least 70,000 words long, and potentially in excess of 100,000 words long, and will thus be classed as a full novel; it is hoped that the novel will be suitable for reading by anyone aged approximately 13 or higher. Meanwhile, the second and third instalments of the Trilogy, The Mystery of Clarence Street and The Cherubic Chastisement, should be completed within 12 months of the completion of their respective predecessor, and information about these will be released in due course.

    For now, that will be all the information I will divest as far as official news releases go. However, I will of course try my best to answer any queries you may have, although keep in mind that I do not as yet wish to reveal every last detail into the public domain. In the meantime, I hope you enjoy the following sneak preview of the first 2,000 words or so of Amy's Reverie – and I look forward to hearing your thoughts about both the preview and the work as a whole! (Please keep in mind that this file is read-only, and that any attempted editing will require a password.)

    Thank you for your interest in my work, and here is to a successful future for the Trilogy!

    Scott Fulcher (a.k.a. Ivo), author of the Tornado Trilogy
     

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    Why would a 17 year-old be in school?
     
  7. Ivo

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    You've never heard of Sixth Form?

    I can't say I expected that to be the first response I receive...!
     
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    Everyone I know calls a sixth form a college :P

    Looks good :)
     
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    Fair enough. Some schools, including the one I attended, have a Sixth Form facility of their own. The school Amy and the other attend is modelled on one of the schools to have such a facility in Southend (but not the one I attended) and thus has a Sixth Form.

    Thank you for the appraisal :)
     
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    A sixth form that is attached to a secondary school would normally just be called a school (at least everyone I know that went to my school called it so ;)).

    Ivo: I look forward to having a read at some point soon :)
     
  11. Yew

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    I have to say, that was pretty good. When I first started reading, I was thinking that there was no way in that short extract I would start to know who the characters are, however in that short extract, I felt that I had developed a bond with them.

    Only thing I might criticize, Im not really sure what they look like, maybe putting some offhand desription in might help? like 'Amy looked over at her sister, Liams fingers absently playing with the curls in her light brown hair. A pain in her head bought her back from this trance, only now did she realise she had been curling her jet black locks into a tight knot'

    Maybe also next to the chapter number you could set the scene, like One : Southend Palace ballroom, 31st december 2046 or something, as I didnt realize it wasnt set in the present until a fair way in?

    However I like it a lot, and somehow it reminds me of Chris ryans writing style. I honestly cant wait until I can get ahold of the whole book.
     
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    Thank you for the comments. Before I address them, let me remind everyone that I would appreciate such constructive comments, even if they are negative, as they help me to understand what others' impressions are.

    In the first version I actually did base each chapter or two around a specific date. However, there was a serious flaw with this approach, which was that the piece was either too fast or too slow, and meant that there were long gaps in the story. I have a means to get around this, as will be shown in due course. The initial piece was split in three segments, with nothing between February and October 2047 inclusive, which just didn't work.

    As for the characters' appearance, it is true that I have not as yet made much in the way of physical description, and thinking about it I'm not even sure I did in the original. I have some ideas for their appearances, although I want to be careful to avoid stereotyping (to give an example, Liam, having a remotely Irish name, will not have ginger hair; in fact, his appearance is based on my cousin Liam.) With this in mind, the next passage of the novel, which will complete Chapter One, will describe more thoroughly the sisters' respective appearances, as they go on to have a rather close discussion about Chloe's behaviour; by the end of this passage, we have been treated to our first discussion of Samism (although the revelation is 20 days away yet).

    Once again, thank you for the comments. As for the whole thing? I will tell you all that, in addition to the rather weak first version, I have written a plot outline consisting of over 60 key elements in the novel, the first of which is "Amy collapses on New Year's Eve"; these will average roughly two or three per chapter.
     
  13. Paul Sidorczuk

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    I liked the three-way group involvement with the reverse role of the two sisters, where the elder sister compares herself at the age of her younger sister to her present unfulfillment.

    An interesting style of writing, which was well word-crafted, from what this short preview revealed.
     
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    Thank you Paul. Not a ~0415 response this time then? ;)

    I would also like to take the chance to thank all those who have taken an interest, including those who have not yet made any comments.

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    IMPORTANT: For future reference, note that I intend to give an update roughly every 2 weeks.
     
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    This looks very good, looking forward to the full release!
     
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    Thank you all, once again.

    An interesting little fact for you: This announcement was made on the 21st of November. According to the official timeline, Chloe's birthday just happens to fall on the 21st of November! I knew there was a reason it was important to me :oops:

    If anyone is wondering, and does not realise this themselves from the information I've provided above, Amy's birthday is on the 21st of January.
     
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    Oh, i thought the Tornado trilogy was a sort of follow-up to Gordon the Big Engine. :oops: :lol:



    i know, sorry. i'll sit quietly over here.
     
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    *** Second Update, posted at 1900 on Monday, 5th December 2011 ***

    It's that time again, so here is the second progress update for the upcoming novel that is Amy's Reverie.

    With the passing of the 4,000 word mark came the first incidence of Amy's recurring dream. In it, as suggested previously, she finds herself in a compromising position with an unidentified youth, and is then subjected to a sudden tornado, which she readily embraces. This dream will be a regular occurrence through the novel right up the point at which she is suddenly abducted later on. See the attached file for the dream sequence. (It has been removed from the main part of this text through "paranoia".)

    The other major advance that has been made so far is that one of the main secondary characters, Amy's best friend Rebecca, has been introduced to the story, as has the central figure for the second piece (The Mystery of Clarence Street), Celeste, although her role in this first novel is decidedly minor.

    There isn't much else to say this time around - but come the next update, all will be revealed as Amy finds herself communing with the deity of Samism himself! For now though, the dream is what truly matters - it's not as though it's a minor event or something that happens just once...!

    As with before, any critical analysis would be welcomed, although I don't expect quite so much this time!

    The next update should come on the 19th of December.
     

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    Nearly five months since the last update, and - one simple discussion with Mojo and a few others aside - not much has happened with Amy's Reverie in that time, owing to a complication with one specific scene that needs to be completed before work can progress...

    Instead, I would like to share another project with you all! Details shan't be released just yet, but will be soon enough - and you may be interested to know that much of it is based around London...!

    N.B.: This idea dates back to May 2011. So don't suggest this was stolen from Giugiaro's idea! As it turns out, he was the first on the forum to know...
     
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    And I support with great interest. Stay to find out more!
     
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    Hello all,

    This post is intended to serve as an announcement of my other work, first created on May 5th last year, which has been waiting in the wings of the forum for the past week. Several of you know some details about it already, and I appreciate that some of this will not be new to you, but I thank you for your patience.

    You will no doubt be aware from my Seeking assistance/volunteers thread that I have been requesting others to put themselves forward if they are skilled in the ways of creative arts. In particular, I have been searching for assistance in the ways of music and art, but far from exclusively those fields. This request was put out due to the nature of this work, which I know is something I would struggle with alone due to several issues I have in these areas, which ultimately boil down to a lack of ability.

    Now, I will come clean.

    I am in the process of creating a children's animated series (cartoon, if you will) entitled Sadie and the Star Squadron.

    I have thus far planned no less than 52 episodes, 38 of which have a full synopsis (with lengths ranging from 400 words to 1,400 words). In addition, I have a half-written movie plot, which derives from a dream I had in late September last year, and an idea - again from a dream - of how to commence a second season. I have even created a storyboard for one episode, although said storyboard has sadly been lost. In addition, I have written a (rather basic) theme tune, complete with lyrics, and an extended version for use with the movie plot, and have also been given concept sketches by a friend at University of most of the main characters.

    Each of the five members of the Star Squadron has their own identity and their own special ability:

    Diamond Star Sadie (SuperStar)
    Emerald Star James (SuperHuman)
    Sapphire Star Chloe (SuperKinesis)
    Amethyst Star Lisa (SuperDraw)
    Topaz Star Samuel (SuperChant)

    Of the five, the most interesting - and seemingly most popular - ability is Lisa's ability.

    Character descriptions:

    Sadie

    James

    Chloe

    Lisa

    Samuel

    I think that will do for now; I've said enough.

    So there you have the reason for my request for assistance.
     
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    You have given a good breakdown of the attributes of the main grouping of the "good" side of the equation.

    Will you be making and publishing on this thread, a similar breakdown of those "characters for evil" against whom your team "for good" will battle against ?
     
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    I wondered if someone would ask that. I will do before long, but I thought that the above is enough for the moment - I don't want to say too much too suddenly in case the excessive amount of material puts people off! The attributes of the remaining prominent characters, including Dr Agnosto, will be revealed later today.

    In addition, I will be revealing a very basic summary of the movie plot at the same time. So far, the full version (which is roughly 50% done) stands at just under 6,500 words; I will aim to summarise the whole thing in 300.
     
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    Character descriptions, part II

    Dr Agnosto

    Keira

    Gregory

    Daniel

    Michael

    In addition, as stated last night, here is a summary of the movie plot:

    Lastly, please find attached a beta title frame. Obviously it is subject to change, but this is what I have so far. Note in particular the "dot" on the "i" in "Sadie" - it took a lot of work! :p And if you are wondering where the file name came from - the original is a .bmp file :roll:
     

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    This is superb Scott!

    The quality of your descriptions is great, and I'm already hooked, good work :)

    I do have one question however, do you have an artist/animator for this, as a cartoon, however good the story is, needs good graphics (as you obviously know ;) ), or do you plan to find them at a later date?

    PS: you asked if my mother is at all skilled at songwriting, I'm afraid she isn't, or rather she's never tried it, so we don't know :lol:
     
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    Relating to art etc, why do you think I asked for help? I could probably manage a short cartoon (say, 90 seconds, or 2,160 frames at 24fps) within two weeks if I tried hard enough, but the quality would be very poor - and it may not even be in colour. I know that other people are better at animating than me.

    My idea was to find a select group of skilled artists who could help me create a "beta" cartoon which could then be used as part of any formal submission. Should it then be successful, it would become part of any run-of-the-mill (and probably Korean) animation studio's workload - under my supervision of course. And upon release, all who helped with the original concept would have a credit to their name, and if they're skilled (and lucky) enough I might even ask them to write an episode. At some stage, I would hope to bring everyone together, even if it was just once and/or over the Internet, so we can all discuss things.

    P.S.: I would strongly expect that your mother would have a least a little talent for songwriting, given her success in poetry. I know being good at one doesn't automatically make you good at the other, but I would be surprised if it was not true here!

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    If you haven't already done so, please check my Art Competition thread! :p

    Also, I have done a quick search on my Desktop computer, and can tell you all that at precisely 02:35:51 on Saturday 5th, one year will have passed since I first created a file that would have details of the series in it. How sad is that? :lol:
    --- old post above --- --- new post below ---
    I just wanted to point out that the project is now one year old !
     
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    Can I refer to what you have said above about a complication with one specific scene. Nearly five months is quite a long time for an intermission in that storyline and I wonder if you can give any more information with regard to the problem, in order that others on the forum could assist you in this matter, if this is possible, unless it is a creativity problem with the actual storyline, in which case only you, as the author, can resolve.
     
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    It's a case of trying to find a solution, and then getting side-tracked in doing so until it got to the point that it fell by the way-side and suffered. In other words, I tried but then lost motivation with it. So until the point comes that I feel up for trying again (which to be fair should have been before now) I won't be going anywhere fast with that. Once that hurdle is cleared, things will be much easier because the next while will primarily be a case of rewriting old material.

    And yes, I know this is a lame/disappointing explanation.
     
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    Have you considered starting a blog?
     
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    Only enough times to have lost count of the number of times. To be perfectly honest, I've just never really seen enough of a point to do so. I tend to write too much for a blog to work. Even if I only had to recount a very small event, unless I had an incentive to could it short I wouldn't.

    I know I should try though...
     
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    I guess a picture drama would do the trick. It's simple and basic and, although it uses some images, it doesn't require all the work involved on an animation. The only inconvenient is that you'll need voice actors and sounds, necessarily.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YoepkwH400
     
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