The Javelin services, once they start running in a few weeks time, will only accept the 'Games Travelcard' issued free to spectators attending events at a select few sites. Standard Travelcards will not be valid, except those routed 'Plus High Speed' from somewhere along the route, which are valid for a return to St Pancakes, plus unlimited travel elsewhere in the zones (but not on the Javelins).Hi folks,
Just watching the BBC Games Guide - they mentioned the new Javelin services... are they part of the standard Travelcard system?
What about other longer-haul tickets? For instance, if I wanted to go through to Ashford from Reading? Could I just hop on a Javelin as part of my travel on a Saver return?The Javelin services, once they start running in a few weeks time, will only accept the 'Games Travelcard' issued free to spectators attending events at a select few sites. Standard Travelcards will not be valid, except those routed 'Plus High Speed' from somewhere along the route, which are valid for a return to St Pancakes, plus unlimited travel elsewhere in the zones (but not on the Javelins).
What about other longer-haul tickets? For instance, if I wanted to go through to Ashford from Reading? Could I just hop on a Javelin as part of my travel on a Saver return?
What about other longer-haul tickets? For instance, if I wanted to go through to Ashford from Reading? Could I just hop on a Javelin as part of my travel on a Saver return?
I presume the intended route for said tickets is via Waterloo and Waterloo East, but I don't see why they wouldn't be valid for travel via Paddington and St. Pancras if you were to walk between the two stations. There is a method of calculating a season for travel via the Underground, which is:Wierdly the only season available on this flow is routed London Not Underground, which is not especially useful.
What about other longer-haul tickets? For instance, if I wanted to go through to Ashford from Reading? Could I just hop on a Javelin as part of my travel on a Saver return?
Ah. As in links to Eurostar?You could, but bear in mind that the Javelin service is primarily a shuttle between St Pancras and Ebbsfleet, and only two trains per hour will actually go all the way through to Ashford.
Ah. As in links to Eurostar?
Sorry, I don't understand. Season tickets from most places in the South East, Ashford included, are available either to London Terminals (i.e. not including any other transport within London), or as Travelcards.Is this a recent thing that a season ticket from Ashford to London does not include a travelcard part if you want one. Until recently my son commuted from Ashford to Bond St via HS1 using an Ashford to London Zones 1-6 season (plus high speed).
Also when I get an off peak return from Ashford to Castle Cary its valid on HS1 and the underground from St Pancras to Paddington.
A Travelcard is an optional extra. This is known as an "out boundary Travelcard". The Travelcard add-on itself is not booked on HS1 services (with the exception of Games Travelcards as described in this thread) it is the Ashford to London part of the ticket that makes it valid. The Travelcard add-on is for travel from London or Stratford to other places that are not on the Ashford to London routes.Is this a recent thing that a season ticket from Ashford to London does not include a travelcard part if you want one.
Which would have cost extra compared to Ashford to London Terminals.Until recently my son commuted from Ashford to Bond St via HS1 using an Ashford to London Zones 1-6 season (plus high speed).
Yes, that is quite probably the shortest route, it's certainly the quickest, and is a mapped route, so perfectly valid. An Off Peak Return ticket isn't to be confused with a query about Travelcards though.Also when I get an off peak return from Ashford to Castle Cary its valid on HS1 and the underground from St Pancras to Paddington.
It's a mapped route.Also travel from Ashford to March fairly regularly and the SE website offers the same price and validity via Cambridge or Peterborough.
How does this work as via Peterborough is surely longer than the 3 mile rule.
Ashford currently has only 2 trains per hour anyway from London in the ordinary timetable. The only real change to customers travelling between London and Ashford on the Highspeed services will be the slightly altered timings and the late evening break, with no trains between 21.39 and 00.41.You could, but bear in mind that the Javelin service is primarily a shuttle between St Pancras and Ebbsfleet, and only two trains per hour will actually go all the way through to Ashford.