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krus_aragon · 18 Nov 2016

I'm of the understanding that shunters would be required at short notice, whereas demand for larger engines would be easier to anticipate. The ability to turn a key and start a diesel shunter would make for a significant improvement over the expense and time to light and steam a conventional shunter (and keep it in steam ready for use whenever during a shift).

Reliability would also have been a factor on larger, long-distance work.

As for DMUs, they were useful on quieter routes as a cost-covering measure: no need for a fireman to shovel coal, so staffing costs are reduced.

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Cowley · 18 Nov 2016

krus_aragon said:
I'm of the understanding that shunters would be required at short notice, whereas demand for larger engines would be easier to anticipate. The ability to turn a key and start a diesel shunter would make for a significant improvement over the expense and time to light and steam a conventional shunter (and keep it in steam ready for use whenever during a shift).

Reliability would also have been a factor on larger, long-distance work.

As for DMUs, they were useful on quieter routes as a cost-covering measure: no need for a fireman to shovel coal, so staffing costs are reduced.

Definitely and I suppose that the engines and running gear were quite well developed at that time to enable pretty reliable DMUs to be mass produced.

JohnW1 · 19 Nov 2016

Following trials with a number of early diesel shunter in 1934/35 the LMS were achieving a 45% reduction in costs using diesel rather than steam shunting engines. In 1936 the LMS decided to concentrated on diesel shunter development and not to build any more steam shunting engines. This development was slowed down by World War 2, however it ultimately ended with the British Railways Class 08.

JohnW1 · 19 Nov 2016

randyrippley · 19 Nov 2016

JohnW1 said:
To add to the mix remember that the original Mirrlees engine was uprated from 1365bhp to 1600bhp following the trial with D5545 on sixteen Brush Type 2 locomotives (D5655 D5670) when they entered traffic in late 1960 and uprated to 2000bhp on D5835 when that entered traffic in April 1962. They were only de-rated back to 1365bhp at the end of 1962 when problems started to appear in the Mirrlees engines of the early 1365bhp locomotives with more than 500,000 miles developing engine fatigue problems mainly centred on the engine crankcase and bearing housings. D5835 ran around 30,000 miles as a "Type 4" without problem.

Your post made me go back and re-read the old early 1960's ABC book I have (the cover is missing so date is uncertain) and yes you're right: the "Type 4" was D5835, not D5677 (as I stated). D5677 was the test bed for the Class 31 engine conversion.
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randyrippley said:
Your post made me go back and re-read the old early 1960's ABC book I have (the cover is missing so date is uncertain) and yes you're right: the "Type 4" was D5835, not D5677 (as I stated). D5677 was the test bed for the Class 31 engine conversion.

Which on thinking about it makes it curiouser..........the ABC makes it clear that D5677 had the EE engine fitted while the others were still in their type 3/4 configurations. You'd have thought that if there was an issue they would have been returned to normal specification very quickly

JohnW1 · 19 Nov 2016

D5677 was not fitted with its EE engine until March 1964. followed by D5841 in July 1964 and D5540 in December 1964. The rate quickened from January 1965 with anything upto 9 being re-engined a month through to early 1969.

randyrippley · 19 Nov 2016

So I guess Ian Allen got the details in that old ABC wrong? Its a shame the covers missing - it would be helpful to know which year it dates from.
Either that or they weren't actually derated to standard by 1964.......
Neither answer sounds correct, but - based on the book - the impression is that they were still uprated at the time D5677 was converted to EE power. Which is hard to believe. Maybe you just can't trust the detail in the old ABc

randyrippley · 21 Nov 2016

JohnW1 said:
All Our Yesterdays 35 Years Ago November 1981

New Locomotives
43180/81, 56099, 56100

Locomotives Withdrawn
08277, 08467, 25280, 40014/62/65/83, 46013/30/41/42/43, 55011/14

Four new locomotives. Fifteen withdrawn.
A direct result of Beeching: closure of lines but retention of the rolling stock resulting in overprovision and a dearth of significant numbers of new motive power for close to twenty years. Instead we soldiered on with antiquated designs, few new orders, with most of the assembly lines and erecting shops being closed or going bust during the late '60s and '70s.
By closing so many lines in such a short period, Beeching and Marples assured the end of significant train building in the UK. What little they didn't kill off was finally eradicated by the order hiatus during the tories privatisation campaign.

dave23 · 22 Nov 2016

You have made photos excellent, Do you think the latest models aren't good? I have a seen a lot of small trains that are available only in UK. 35 years means it really a great value and informative.

JohnW1 · 24 Nov 2016

On this Day in History – Doncaster Works
21st November 1970.

A walk round the works forty six years ago.

Class 03 (2014/28/53/85, 2154), class 08 (3302, 3512/16/22/33/42, 3674/84), class 10 (4055), class 31 (5512/47/53/55/72, 5679, 5804), class 37 (6700/38/73/96, 6806/10/37/43, 6914/36/49/50/68/72), class 55 (9000/03/06/12/13/15/18/20), steam 60532

Deltic availability appears low with eight (30%) in the works.

I photographed a number of these engines above in later life and they can be seen in this collection.

3542 (08427) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8256246957/
5553 (31135) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/15117796453/
5555 (31137) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/13005518254/
5572 (31154) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7049953359/
6738 (37038) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6688487957/
6810 (37110) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6688484357/
6843 (37143) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8107896125/
6936 (37682) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6190847859/
6949 (37249) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5808782907/
6950 (37250) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/14560419513/
9000 (55022) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5979972763/
9012 (55012) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6336170501/
9013 (55013) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6855373101/
9015 (55015) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6148875903/
9018 (55018) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8713307964/
9020 (55020) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/9778146172/
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On this Day in History – Newcastle
24th November 1973. (Saturday)

Tyne Yard
Class 03 (2064), class 08 (3195, 3324, 3678), class 24 (5106), class 37 (6730, 6952), class (1764, 1880)
South Gosforth (52J)
Class 03 (2165)
Newcastle Central
Class 03 (2056/78, 2156), class 31 (5616/91), class 37 (6809), class 45 (22), class 47 (1507), class 55 (9004)
Gateshead (52A)
Class 03 (2059/61, 2147), class 08 (3182, 3674, 3926), class 24 (5107), class 31 (5821), class 37 (6731/42/71/87/93, 6942), class 40 (206/54/63/69, 353/60, 40154) class 45 (70/83/98), class 46 (169/79/80), class 47 (1101, 1520/27/45/77, 1988, 47004), class 55 (9017)

2056 (03056) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8115176460/
2059 (03059) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/14059257375/
5821 (31289) – https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/14059256075/
6742 (37042) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6475512969/
6787 (37087) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/15901000541/
40154 – https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/16144207148/
360 (40160) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5890155824/
22 (45132) – https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/17418516486/
70 (45048) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/19465260218/
83 (45142) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/11285258155/
98 (45059) – https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/20614766114/
169 (46032) – https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/15792279195/
179 (46042) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/25463969025/
1101 (47518) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5976987578
1520 (47421) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6734802609/
47004 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/12183762665/
9004 (55004) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6592795635/
9017 (55017) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6948965551/

JohnW1 · 5 Dec 2016

All Our Yesterdays 60 Years Ago December 1956

Sixty years ago Standard class steam locomotives were still in production and diesel shunter production was progressing at a steady rate. There was also a steady flow of new diesel multiple units.

New Locomotives
Standard Class 5 4-6-0 73118/19/41/42/43/44/55/56/57/58
Standard Class 4 4-6-0 - 75052
Standard Class 4 2-6-0 76075/76/77/78
Standard Class 4 2-6-4T 80149/50
Standard Class 9F 2-10-0 92092, 92115/16/17/18
Class D2/5 11182/83 (D2405/06)
Class 04 11216/17 (D2246/47)
Class 08 13288/89/90/91/92/93/94, 13327/28/29/30 (D3288/89/90/91/92/93/94, D3327/28/29/30)
New Diesel Multiple Units
Swindon Inter City Sc79108/09, Sc79482
Metro Cammell (Class 101) E50152/53/54/55/58/59/60/61
Cravens (Class 105/6) E50363/64, E56118/19
BR Derby (Class 114) E50013/14, E56013/14

I have photographed some of the above later in life and it can be found in this collection. As always feedback and comments welcome.

D3289 (08219) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7399551008/
D3290 (08220) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8403786975/
D3290 (08220) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/23393054219/
D3290 (08220) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/9234907231/
D3290 (08220) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/14390896047/
D3327 (08257) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8520854482/

Steveman · 6 Dec 2016

JohnW1 said:
Following trials with a number of early diesel shunter in 1934/35 the LMS were achieving a 45% reduction in costs using diesel rather than steam shunting engines. In 1936 the LMS decided to concentrated on diesel shunter development and not to build any more steam shunting engines. This development was slowed down by World War 2, however it ultimately ended with the British Railways Class 08.

I imagine that the 08 must go down as one of the most successful designs ever.

JohnW1 · 7 Dec 2016

On this Day in History Crewe/Liverpool
7th December 1973.

A day trip to Liverpool
Nottingham Liverpool: class 03 (2399), class 08 (3028/47/56/90, 3174, 3217/92, 3351, 3467, 3570/84, 3694, 3801, 3909/68/70, 4098, 4143/53, 08622), class 20 (8065, 8149/64, 20032, 20171), class 23 (5901), class 24 (5047/52/55/62/63/79, 5141), class 25 (5193/96, 5214/31, 7541/56/82, 7610/48, 25284), class 40 (233/35/41, 313), class 45 (20/24, 102, 45112), class 47 (1859, 1952, 47484), class 50 (428, 50016), class 82 (E3048), class 84 (84002), class 85 (E3070), class 86 (E3130, 86005/12, 86209/22)
Liverpool Exchange: class 08 (3033, 3579)
Crewe: class 08 (3105, 3291, 3763, 3800, 4115), class 25 (5225/64, 7521/57, 7671), class 40 (224, 310), class 47 (1820/43, 47445), class 50 (407), class 81 (81012), class 82 (E3053), class 83 (83002/11/14), class 85 (E3061/86/95, 85018), class 86 (E3101/08/27/48/82/92, 86001/02/11/17, 86207/08/11/12/17/22/24)
Crewe Derby: class 08 (3833), class 24 (5056, 5134), class 25 (25300), class 31 (5553), class 47 (1855), class 85 (E3078), class 86 (E3142, 86220)

In this collection are a number of images of locomotives seen that day later in there careers. As always feed back and comments welcome

3090 (08075) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7194004954/
3105 (08080) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8115169557/
08622 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/14452854781/
3800 (08635) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5611869495/
3970 (08802) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6910854258/
5193 (25043) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5770220321/
5225 (25075) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8636994578/
7556 (25206) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5756951687/
7648 (25298) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6849646016/
7671 (25321) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7660380290/
224 (40024) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6118919389/
233 (40033) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8230856589/
235 (40035) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7994868432/
313 (40113) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7994869672/
20 (45013) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8038269779/
24 (45027) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5596404354/
45112 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8237404706/
47484 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7384472016/
407 (50007) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5566605489/
50016 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/9147396845/
83002 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6943495800/
83014 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5698261223/
E3086 (85031) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7878054000/
86002 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/9267873450/
86017 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8046137655/
E3130 (86037) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5603925502/
86208 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/15578038670/
86211 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8046142678/
86217 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5994389252/
86224 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5838054647/

Poolie · 8 Dec 2016

Steveman said:
I imagine that the 08 must go down as one of the most successful designs ever.

No, no, no, the most successful 0-6-0 design must be the J72's! Started making them in 1898 and still making them in 1951 well after diesel shunter production started

JohnW1 · 10 Dec 2016

All Our Yesterdays – 55 Years Ago –December 1961

Diesel and Electric locomotive building was in full swing with British Railways workshops at Darlington building class 10’s and class 25’s, Horwich building class 09’s, Doncaster building class 85 electric locomotives, Derby building class 46 “Peaks”, Crewe building class 08’s, class 45 “Peaks” and class 52 “Westerns” and Swindon building class 03’s. Locomotive contractors were also in production with English Electric building at Vulcan Foundry class 40’s and class 55 Deltics. Also English Electric were building at the Robert Stephensons and Hawthorn works, Darlington class 20’s, Beyer Peacock at Manchester were building class 35 Hymek’s, Brush were building class 30’s (31’s) at Loughborough, North British Locomotive Co. at Glasgow were building class 43’s The Birmingham Railway Carriage and Wagon Co. were building class 27 and class 33’s and Yorkshire Engine Co. were building class 02’s.

New locomotives:
Unclassified –
Class 02 – D2869
Class 03 – D2175/76/77
Class 09 – D4110/11/12
Class 10 – D4080
Class 20 – D8102/03/04/05/06/07/08/09
Class 25 – D5168/69/70
Class 27 – D5363/64/65
Class 30 – D5826/27/28
Class 33 – D6579/80/81/82
Class 35 – D7011/12/13/14/15
Class 40 – D368/69/70
Class 43 – D857 Undaunted, D858 Valorous
Class 45 – D130/31/32/33/34/35/36/37
Class 46 – D142/44/45/46/47/48/49/50
Class 52 – D1000 Western Enterprise
Class 55 – D9019
Class 85 – E3061/62

Notable steam withdrawals include Great Western Railway 2-6-2T 5542, London and North Eastern K4 2-6-0 61994 The Great Marquess both now preserved.

5542 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5992611077/
61994 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6217479999/
D2175 (03175) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6082013692/
D8102 (20102) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/15883918587/
D8103 (20103) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8617636519/
D8107 (20107) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6357181569/
D5169 (25019) – https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/24431276570/
D5365 (27019) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6285569705/
D5826 (31293) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6174398018/
D6580 (33119) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/12516144135/
D368 (40168) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7121590797/
D130 (45148) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5538256038/
D131 (45074) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6334014334/
D132 (45075) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5658977948/
D133 (45003) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8646893597/
D134 (45076) – https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/19856335410/
D135 (45149) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6297688522/
D136 (45077) – https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/22567157599/
D137 (45014) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8466515203/
D142 (46005) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5707860317/
D143 (46006) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5756950173/
D144 (46007) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6013394553/
D146 (46009) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6248637161/
D147 (46010) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6297160521/
D149 (46012) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6334015498/
D9019 (55019) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5979971513/

JohnW1 · 19 Dec 2016

All Our Yesterdays – 50 Years Ago – December 1966

Locomotive building was being undertaken as follows, English Electric at the Vulcan Foundry were delivering the final batch of Class 20’s. The Brush Falcon Works at Loughborough and British Rail Crewe Works were delivering Class 47’s and British Rail, Derby Works were delivering Class 25’s

New locomotives:
Class 20 – D8173/78/79/80/81/82/83/84
Class 25 – D7660/65/66
Class 47 – D1107, D1956

Doncaster Works was undertaking replacement of the unreliable Mirrlees JVS12T 1250bhp engine in the Brush Type 2 fleet with a 1470bhp English Electric 12SVT engine with the following being completed this month;

D5638/85/94

Main line diesel and electric production in the month remained steady at thirteen. Steam withdrawals in the month increased significantly from one hundred and fifty five to two hundred and six. With less than two years to go major inroads were now being made into the Stanier Black Five 4-6-0’s (twenty seven locomotives), Stanier 8F 2-8-0’s (twelve locomotives) and BR Standards (forty eight locomotives including another Britannia Pacific). Also this month the 100 year agreement to provide steam shunting engines at Stavley Ironworks ended, resulting in the withdrawal of a seven ancient Midland Railway steam shunting tanks and eight of the Isle of White fleet of O2 tanks were condemned. At least six of the steam withdrawals (41241, 41708, 42968, 47324/27, 47406) survived being condemned by British Rail and can still be seen today.

41241 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/25222853976/
41708 – https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/14829706767/
42968 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8031816770/
47324 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8031818167/
47327 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/11201673033/
47406 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/9260694042/
D8182 (20182) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8617637061/
D8183 (20183) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/9072039995/
D8184 (20184) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5530089669/
D7666 (25316) – https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/13897866046/
D1107 (47524) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6067879069/
D1956 (47553) – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6827947329/

JohnW1 · 25 Dec 2016

Phil. · 25 Dec 2016

JohnW1 said:
On this Day in History Shirebrook
Christmas Day 1980

Shirebrook
08180/97, 08214/55/85, 08867, 20032/61, 31250, 31300, 37105/28/69, 56001/05/06/09/17/19/46/75/79/87

A number of the above I have photographed over the years and can be found in this collection. As always feedback and comments welcome

08867 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6010903598/
31250 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5716839025/
37105 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6688482985/
37128 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7927662772/
56001 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5614957377/
56005 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/9291017148/
56006 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5819883581/
56046 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6965681460/
56075 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6965684050/
56079 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6914333355/
56087 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8667822154/

That picture of 56005. How often as a boy I stood on that footbridge and dropped stones down the chimney of locomotives passing underneath. Then into the buffet to get a free glass of something from my great aunt Mabel who ran the buffet.

JohnW1 · 26 Dec 2016

All Our Yesterdays – 40 Years Ago – December 1976

Locomotives Withdrawn
1015/56/70/71, 03034/96, 20018, 24052/65/69/94, 24103/04/06/07/10/12/13/15/18/20/21/24/29/30/34/50

Locomotives Reinstated
08077

Locomotives Stored:
08111/17/19/35, 08596, 26020

Locomotives Modified
Dual Brake Fitted:
20203, 25097, 31189, 37014/80

An additional Christmas parcels train 3E07, 21.40 Bristol – Sunderland was worked by Laira allocated 25063 + 25220 on the 23rd December 1976. The pair spent the Christmas break stabled at Tyne yard.

A number of the above can be seen in this collection

08135 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5975696014/
20018 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5632044734/
24113 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5585614272/
24115 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6268065003/
24118 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5609053158/
24120 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5585020187/
24134 – https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/30718682600/
24150 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6208322836/
25063 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5537987806/
25220 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/9660070477/
1015 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6651364719/
1071 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6225278897/

JohnW1 · 1 Jan 2017

All Our Yesterdays 35 Years Ago December 1981

New Locomotives
43182/83, 56099, 56101/02/03

Locomotives Withdrawn
03129/60/61, 08075, 08125/89, 08265, 08301/03/28, 08547/59, 25125/56, 40019/75, 40107/71, 55007/08/10/13/16/17/19/21

Locomotives Named
47401 North Eastern, 47406 Rail Riders, 47583 County of Hertfordshire, 47584 County of Suffolk

A number of the above I photographed during their careers and can be found in this collection. As always feedback and comments welcome.

03161 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6180072179/
08075 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7194004954/
08125 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/23454035089/
25156 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5530099469/
40019 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5558998460/
40171 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6271697292/
47401 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6328296012/
55007 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5786589911/
55019 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7424105872/
56103 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/20004864339/

JohnW1 · 7 Jan 2017

All Our Yesterdays 60 Years Ago January 1957

Sixty years ago Standard class steam locomotives were still in production and diesel shunter production was progressing at a steady rate. There was also a steady flow of new diesel multiple units.

New Locomotives
Standard Class 5 4-6-0 73145/59/60
Standard Class 4 4-6-0 75053/54/55
Standard Class 4 2-6-4T 80151
Standard Class 9F 2-10-0 92093
Class D2/5 11184 (D2407)
Class 04 11218/19 (D2248/49)
Class 08 13295/96, 13332/33/34/35 (D3295/96, D3332/33/34/35)
New Diesel Multiple Units
Swindon Inter City Sc79110/11/55/56
Metro Cammell (Class 101) E50156/57/62/63/64/65/66/67/68/69/70/71/72/73, E59060/73
Cravens (Class 105/6) E50365/66/67/68, E56120/21/22/23
BR Derby (Class 114) E50017/18/19/20/21/22/23/24/25/26/27/28/29/30/31, E56017/18/19/20/21/22/23/24/25/26/27/28/29/30/31

In the month seventy steam locomotives were withdrawn, thirty three being over fifty years old with Midland Railway 0-6-0 58142 being the oldest at eighty two years old.

I have photographed some of the above later in life and it can be found in this collection. As always feedback and comments welcome.

D3296 (08226) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6081476693/
E50019 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/30314153601/
E50162 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5661679669/
E50164 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/14127693115/
E50164 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8344653675/

JohnW1 · 12 Jan 2017

All Our Yesterdays 55 Years Ago January 1962

Diesel and Electric locomotive building was in full swing (although slowed down somewhat in this period due to the Christmas holiday) with British Railways workshops at Darlington building class 10s, Horwich building class 08s and 09s, Doncaster building class 85 electric locomotives, Derby building class 46 Peaks and Swindon building class 03s. Locomotive contractors were also in production with English Electric building at Vulcan Foundry class 40s and also English Electric were building at the Robert Stephensons and Hawthorn works, Darlington class 20s. Beyer Peacock at Manchester were building class 35 Hymeks and class 82 electric locomotives, Brush were building class 30s (31s) at Loughborough, North British Locomotive Co. at Glasgow were building, class 43s and the Birmingham Railway Carriage and Wagon Co. were building class 27 and class 33s.

New locomotives:
Class 03 D2178/79
Class 08 D4115/16
Class 09 D4113/14
Class 10 D4081/82/83
Class 20 D8110/11/12
Class 27 D5366/67/68/69/70/71/72/73
Class 30 D5829/30/31
Class 33 D6583/84/85
Class 35 D7016/17/18
Class 40 D372/73/74
Class 43 D859 Vanquisher, D860 Victorious
Class 46 D151/53
Class 82 E3053
Class 85 E3067

In the month eighty eight steam locomotives were withdrawn with 1962 seeing a real start being made on the more modern designs. Whilst the odd post World War Two constructed locomotive had been condemned in the previous couple of years most notably GWR designed Hawkesworth 84xx 0-6-0 pannier tanks and LNER designed Class L1 2-6-4 tanks this month would see further 84xx and L1 tanks withdrawn along with LMS designed Ivatt 2-6-0s and LNER designed B1 4-6-0s.

A number of the above were photographed later in life and can be found in this collection. As always feedback and comments welcome

D4116 (08886) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6651907047/
D8110 (20110) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/31541405231/
D8112 (20112) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5795254539/
D5367 (27021) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5796377169/
D5369 (27023) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5711787119/
D5830 (31297) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6311511440/
D5831 (31298) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7340495856/
D374 (40174) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/16632062458/
D151 (46014) https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/28139231114/
D153 (46016) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/23201741875/
E3067 (85012) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6657903851/

JohnW1 · 15 Jan 2017

JohnW1 · 22 Jan 2017

All Our Yesterdays 50 Years Ago January 1967

Locomotive building was being undertaken as follows, English Electric at the Vulcan Foundry were delivering the final batch of Class 20s. The Brush Falcon Works at Loughborough and British Rail Crewe Works were delivering Class 47s and British Rail, Derby Works were delivering Class 25s

New locomotives:
Class 20 D8186/87/88/89/90
Class 25 D7667/68/70
Class 47 D1108/09/10, D1957
Class 73 E6048/49

Main line diesel and electric production in the month remained steady at fourteen. Steam withdrawals in the month decreased significantly from two hundred and six to ninety four. With less than two years to go inroads were now being made into all the remaining steam classes with the Austerity 2-8-0s (twenty five locomotives) and BR Standards (twenty two locomotives including another five Britannia Pacifics) being particularly heavy.

D8187 (20187) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8755971913/
D8188 (20188) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/13162561213/
D8188 (20188) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/11813696334/
D8189 (20189) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/10487399484/
D8189 (20189) https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/14649497032/
D7670 (25320) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/9910180154/
D1108 (47525) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5668889423/
D1109 (47526) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8137577697/
D1957 (47554) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6233550910/

JohnW1 · 22 Jan 2017

December 2016 (Part 11)

December continues with a day out to Merseyside and the Wirral.

507033 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/32129499082/
508138 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/32278768375/
507016 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/32278770725/
142079 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/32240267166/
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Odds and Sods

An mid 1975 early 35mm shot and one from the cuckoo colour print film from 1978, plus one from a couple of months ago

55012 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/31487058263/
202 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/31487060913/
Ground Frame - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/31920979020/
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December 2016 (Part 12)

December continues with a day out to Merseyside and the Wirral followed by a Christmas break in Yorkshire.

158841 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/31507384943/
158820 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/32198708111/
Bempton Station https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/31476386394/
Half Mile Post - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/32279430526/
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July 1976 (Part 22)

July forty years ago finds in the North West. Feedback and comments welcome.

86226 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/32399806235/
08616 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/32249671552/
40088 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/32249669632/
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December 2016 (Part 13)

December continues with a Christmas break in Yorkshire.

158901 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/31591047084/
158901 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/32394298766/
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April 1978 (Part 31)

April continues with a trip to South Wales. Feedback and comments welcome.

6695 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/32076734710/
4121 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/31643164323/

Tim R-T-C · 23 Jan 2017

Loving the vintage shots, that 40 at Warrington is superb.

JohnW1 · 27 Jan 2017

All Our Yesterdays 40 Years Ago January 1977

Locomotives Withdrawn
1022/58, 26009, 27015, 44006

Locomotives Stored:
03149, 08514, 26009, 27015

Locomotives Modified
Dual Brake Fitted:
20202, 25106, 31278

Air brake fitted and vacuum brake removed
08493

A number of the above I photographed during there careers and can be found in this collection. As always feedback and comments welcome

03149 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6706418679/
25106 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5628713959/
27015 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6004603728/
1022 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6651362929/
1058 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6125863109/
44006 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/22928339783/

JohnW1 · 27 Jan 2017

December 2016 (Part 15)

December continues with a Christmas break in Yorkshire.

158908 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/32394969492/

JohnW1 · 28 Jan 2017

July 1976 (Part 23)

July forty years ago finds in the North West. Feedback and comments welcome.

47324 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/32186005680/
716 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/32524165886/

JohnW1 · 29 Jan 2017

Odds and Sods

One from 1975 and one from circa 2004. Feedback and comments welcome.

Aberbeeg - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/32417976392/
45428 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/32469929761/

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