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Last PEP derived units in service

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With the 314's gone, 313/0's gone, 315's being rundown and the 507 and 508's demise soon, got me thinking the 313/2's could ( I said could) be the last full PEP derived units in service and possibly 313.201 whilst being the 1st of the 313's could potentially be the last to withdrawn. Before anyone reminds me yes I am aware of the PEP trailers in the 455,s .
Wondering If 313.201 remained in normal service till the end this would be a very rare thing for the 1st of the class to last. Yes I appreciate there was D200 and 26.007 but these were effectively retained for special services. What other classes have seen the 1st withdrawn last from normal working service ?
 
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55022 (D9000).

50050 (D400) would also be a candidate but was one of a few retained for special workings afterwards.
 

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5001 was one of the last 4-EPBs although it wasn't entirely in the original formation.
 

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With the 314's gone, 313/0's gone, 315's being rundown and the 507 and 508's demise soon, got me thinking the 313/2's could ( I said could) be the last full PEP derived units in service and possibly 313.201 whilst being the 1st of the 313's could potentially be the last to withdrawn. Before anyone reminds me yes I am aware of the PEP trailers in the 455,s .
Wondering If 313.201 remained in normal service till the end this would be a very rare thing for the 1st of the class to last. Yes I appreciate there was D200 and 26.007 but these were effectively retained for special services. What other classes have seen the 1st withdrawn last from normal working service ?

It will be a toss-up between the retained Merseyrail 507s and the Southern 313/2s.

One wonders if any thought has been given as to what happens with the Southern ones, especially now the GTR "franchise" is now in the long grass, and appears likely to be extended. Unless some kind of cascade happens (and there isn't anything readily obvious save for the 379s being involved somewhere) it's highly likely the 313/2s will see out the GTR franchise and would be replaced in whatever comes next.
 

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it's highly likely the 313/2s will see out the GTR franchise and would be replaced in whatever comes next
Isn't there a pretty good chance that they are simply replaced by a contraction of the overall fleet in the light of service cuts?
 

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Hopefully, there is a good source of spares from the scrapped GN fleet to keep them going for a while longer. They are starting to sound rather knackered however

I don't know if the West Worthing shuttles have restarted but when I was last in the area, the Brighton - Portsmouth Harbour services were 377 worked
 

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Hopefully, there is a good source of spares from the scrapped GN fleet to keep them going for a while longer. They are starting to sound rather knackered however

I don't know if the West Worthing shuttles have restarted but when I was last in the area, the Brighton - Portsmouth Harbour services were 377 worked

ATM, its only Seaford, Hoves and Peak Time (AM/PM) West Worthings out of Brighton. There's also Bognor Barnham/ Littlehampton Shuttles and Littlehampton-Southsea stoppers with 313s.

Minus engineering works were some are running Brighton-Littlehampton and the odd Pompey!
 

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507s at least have a time frame for withdrawal where as 313/2s don't. Would expect that DfT / BR / Southern / whatever will wait to see what happens to passenger traffic post Covid before looking at replacement to Southern's 455s which might also involve other suburban services creating a 377 cascade with 3 or 4 car sets replacing 313s. This might well tie in with new stock for Uckfield post project speed electrification (stop laughing!) meaning we are looking at another 5 years at least for the 313s.
 

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ATM, its only Seaford, Hoves and Peak Time (AM/PM) West Worthings out of Brighton. There's also Bognor Barnham/ Littlehampton Shuttles and Littlehampton-Southsea stoppers with 313s.

Minus engineering works were some are running Brighton-Littlehampton and the odd Pompey!
Can confirm you still them regularly over LCs in Chichester. When I was forced on the trains after heart surgery i soon learnt where not to sit, next to Windows was dodgy as missing bits of interior cladding meant a gale blowing over your feet, but when wet you had to avoid the Water coming out of the light fittings if sat on the inner seats. Most units are displaying a lot of corrosion around cabs, window frames, roof side joint. Really need replacing with 4 Coach units when schools returned buses had to supplement the trains due to concerns with crush loads, I was glad I was back on the roads by then.
 
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