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Laura Shoaf appointed as GBR chair

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Transport secretary Louise Haigh has appointed West Midlands Combined Authority chief executive Laura Shoaf CBE as the chair of Shadow Great British Railways, which was set up by Ms Haigh a month ago.

Before leading the WMCA Laura Shoaf was managing director of Transport for West Midlands where she oversaw major transport investment. She was the first female chair of the Urban Transport Group, which comprises transport leaders from the city regions, and supported the industry on its recovery from the Covid-19 pandemic.
https://www.railnews.co.uk/news/2024/10/03-new-great-british-railways-chair.html

I hadn't heard of her previously, but I think it's a good call for the GBR chair to have an operational background rather than infrastructure, and good that it's someone with experience of non-London urban railways. Hopefully a sign that nationalisation = localisation.
 
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https://www.railnews.co.uk/news/2024/10/03-new-great-british-railways-chair.html

I hadn't heard of her previously, but I think it's a good call for the GBR chair to have an operational background rather than infrastructure, and good that it's someone with experience of non-London urban railways. Hopefully a sign that nationalisation = localisation.
I agree about someone who knows something about the real world of public transport in the UK (i.e. not London where it's loads better and people complain more) being a good idea.

But how much of Birmingham's failures in that area are down to her I would be interested to know.

A decade to get the metro from Snow Hill to Broad Street is a bit embarrassing.
 

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Is that not because there are more people?
Not in my experience, it's because they expect more. Any other city in the UK getting close to what London have would be delighted.


The spending reflects it.

[Link to Statista, a statistics website. The page contains a chart of UK government spending on transport by region, which shows clear disparity between the spending on London (£1272 per capita) compared to the overall spending (£648 per capita).]

So does the car usage.

[Link to website containing research about car use by region. Which includes a table that gives information about "car dependency". The table shows that annual average mileage is greatest for people living in the West Midlands (9138 per person) and lowest in London (2056 per person).]
 
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You're not actually suggesting there are more users of rail in the North than in London, are you?
I didn't say anything like that. I'm suggesting that the public transport as a whole is substantially better in London than everywhere else, and people who live in London therefore have a different perspective on the problems of it from the rest of the country.

Which is why having someone who isn't London-centred is a good idea as an appointment.

Also, people in London complain about their public transport and it's annoying when it's streets ahead of what the rest of us get.
 
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Should the chair not be representative of where the majority of the customer-base is from?
 

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Should the chair not be representative of where the majority of the customer-base is from?
Or should they be in a central location which will also soon be served by a very speedy railway allowing them to get to London rather quickly when required?
 
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Or should they be in a central location which will also soon be served by a very speedy railway allowing them to get to London rather quickly when required?
Central to where? Almost all meetings for the chair will take place in Whitehall, not in Derby or Birmingham. And "soon" is a bit premature.
 

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Should the chair not be representative of where the majority of the customer-base is from?
How about putting them somewhere that is representative of where the majority of the potential customer-base is from (ie “outside London”)? Would suggest that the potential for modal shift towards rail is much higher outside London than inside the M25.
 

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Should the chair not be representative of where the majority of the customer-base is from?
London already has enough representation, Hendy was TfL for years.

Besides, if the majority of the customer base is there (which I'm not sure it is) then you might look at the funding and think that the two are related.
 
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How about putting them somewhere that is representative of where the majority of the potential customer-base is from (ie “outside London”)?
Ultimately to court that market, you'll require investment. His Majesty's Treasury has not moved.
 

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Should the chair not be representative of where the majority of the customer-base is from?
The chair should be representative of the parts of the network which have been most neglected and have the greatest room for growth and development to encourage more use of the railway. A national body is not and should never be focused on any one location.
 

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The chair should be representative of the parts of the network which have been most neglected and have the greatest room for growth and development to encourage more use of the railway. A national body is not and should never be focused on any one location.
Is there anyone around who has lived in all of Barnoldswick, Lampeter and Riccarton Junction?
 

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I'm finding this thread rather bizarre. It's completely irrelevant where the person comes from. It's the ability to do the job that matters.
 

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I'm finding this thread rather bizarre. It's completely irrelevant where the person comes from. It's the ability to do the job that matters.

Absolutely this...Laura Shoaf sounds like she has a wealth of experience and enthusiasm. I hope she can steer SGBR forward.
 

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Is there anyone around who has lived in all of Barnoldswick, Lampeter and Riccarton Junction?
Back in the day a resident of Riccarton Junction would have had a rosy view of the railway service with its connections to 3 regional cities of Carlisle, Newcastle and Edinburgh. (all just walking trails when I last stopped by)

They would however have benefited in applying for a national Chair by also having a good understanding of other regional challenges and opportunities. Whenever I have worked periods in London my perception of public transport in-effectiveness has always been diluted.
 

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Sorry to be pedantic, but she will be the chair of Shadow GBR, not (yet) GBR. Shadow GBR now comprises four people.
 

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Sorry to be pedantic, but she will be the chair of Shadow GBR, not (yet) GBR. Shadow GBR now comprises four people.
With the most important appointment, that of CEO or DG or whatever executive title applies, still to be made.
It is as yet unclear what powers these people will have, separate from DfT.
 

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I'm finding this thread rather bizarre. It's completely irrelevant where the person comes from. It's the ability to do the job that matters.
No one is talking about where she "comes from". It's about what her work experience is, and having experience of working in the sector but outside of London is, for some of us, a positive.

What her experience is affects her ability to do the job, and how she might do it.
 

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I take it that Chair is a part time role, not an executive?
 

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Is there anyone around who has lived in all of Barnoldswick, Lampeter and Riccarton Junction?
If they do exist they’ve probably got an ability to deal with boredom far in advance of that of most humans
 

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Can someone please explain to me what Shadow GBR is, and how it differs from GBRTT?
Shadow GBR is the organisation that can exist prior to legislation being passed to allow GBR. GBRTT was a think tank talking shop of senior railway staff to help advise and guide the previous government about how to design GBR to deliver the outcomes they wanted. So far SGBR is four staff but will presumably move quickly to absorb the GBRTT into it so that it can implement and realise the outputs that a single entity can control without legislation.

For example there is nothing stopping this group harmonising door rules across all operators.
 

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No one is talking about where she "comes from". It's about what her work experience is, and having experience of working in the sector but outside of London is, for some of us, a positive.

What her experience is affects her ability to do the job, and how she might do it.
I still find it bizarre that there's fixation about "not London". What on earth has London got to do with anything?

For the record Laura Shoaf is American as were the the first Commissioner and two of the first senior directors of TfL.
 

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I still find it bizarre that there's fixation about "not London". What on earth has London got to do with anything?

For the record Laura Shoaf is American as were the the first Commissioner and two of the first senior directors of TfL.

Indeed.

You’d think that someone with experience from London would be seen as desirable, given that it has by far the best and most integrated transport network in the UK. Surely that’s something other regions would want to emulate?!

It sounds like Laura Shoaf has some good experience to draw from, though, so let’s hope she can make a positive difference.
 
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Indeed.

You’d think that someone with experience from London would be seen as desirable, given that it has by far the best and most integrated transport network in the UK. Surely that’s something other regions would want to emulate?!
There seems to be a common "train" of thought that instead London should descend to the depths of the worst elsewhere, so that everywhere is rubbish.
 

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All we need her to do is bang the those three heads together and start showing the industry can actually work together to improve things now and not hide behind "the legislation hasn't been enacted" line.
 

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Shadow GBR is the organisation that can exist prior to legislation being passed to allow GBR. GBRTT was a think tank talking shop of senior railway staff to help advise and guide the previous government about how to design GBR to deliver the outcomes they wanted. So far SGBR is four staff but will presumably move quickly to absorb the GBRTT into it so that it can implement and realise the outputs that a single entity can control without legislation.
Don't know about Shoaf, but the other three appointees are doing their old jobs (ie heads of DfT Rail [Hynes], DOLR [Gisby] and Network Rail [Haines]), as well as their new SGBR role.
That's pending some structure being given to SGBR.
 

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