Lea Bridge station

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  1. Paul Sidorczuk

    Paul Sidorczuk Veteran Member

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    Has anyone any recently updated news about the eventual proposed re-opening of this railway station?
     
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    you seriously think that it will re-open? on what basis, post Olympics?
     
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    March 2016 is the target date for opening

    £5.5m from Westfield Shopping Centre, £5m from the council, £1m plus from New Stations Fund

    Clearance work started recently.

    Read the comments on this http://www.londonreconnections.com/2013/lea-bridge-lives-again/
     
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    Its fairly common knowledge (at least locally) that the station will be reopening. Indeed, work has already begun on clearing the site http://www.guardian-series.co.uk/news/13216176.display/
     
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    It is one of four new or re-opened stations announced a couple of years ago, mainly funded by DfT. Two of the other three are now open, with a third being progressed. There's no reason that Lea Bridge won't get through the current planning delays, which are mainly internal NR issues with the freight companies.
     
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    From the local newspaper, dated 01/06/15:
    http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/news/londonnews/13216176.New_opening_date_for_station_closed_in_1985/
    And from 25/03/15:
    http://www.eppingforestguardian.co.uk/news/waltham_forest/11878161.Station_re_opening_delayed_after_operators__objections/
     
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    Work seems to have begun on Lea Bridge Road, a tarmac road has been laid from Orient Way sidings, and last time I went by the foliage was removed along with some of the platform flag stones.
     
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    Went through on Tuesday- certainly looked like an active project site!
     
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    If ever a station needed to be staffed for safety reasons, it's Lea Bridge Rd. I used it once about forty years ago, in daylight, it was creepy and I was in my twenties. No good saying CCTV, that might help you find the attacker(s) but maybe too late by then. Overground would have to staff but will it come under them? The immediate surrounding area AFAIK remains pretty bleak. Maybe reopening should be left until after more development (yes, I know, chicken and egg).
     
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    It wouldn't be part of LO as no LO lines run through it. Maybe if they re-opened Hall Farm curve and ran Chingford's via Stratford, but if it open within 12 months it would be a GA station I reckon. I think when it opens before the surrounding re-develoment has taken place it may get an Angel Road style service, because as you say, the surrounding area is pretty grim. The main users will probably be GA staff travelling to/from Orient Way!
     
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    The TfL order for new LO stock has add on options some of which are for stock to run Stratford - WAML services (aka Stratford to Angel Road StAR) so that appears to be the medium term plan.
     
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    Not another bloody mini Holland. They did one in the Grove Road area - blocked all the raods to motorists then gave absolutely no clue as to how you were supposed to get anywhere. Cars reversing all over the place as they came across a blockage. Badly thought out scheme, probably imagineered one Friday afternoon after a session in the King William IV.
     
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    What is this StAR thing? If its just a service from Stratford to Angel Road that seems pretty pointless, unless its about increasing BIS-STR services, or sending Hertford trains that way? Does this plan also mean TFL taking over more WA lines?
     
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    The end-game is to 4-track the WAML.

    The first stage is to lay a 3rd track from Coppermill Junction to Angel Road to offer a 2tph shuttle as you can't fit more local services into the current timetable without impacting the mainline services. This is StAR. The original plan (see p11) was to have a 3rd track all the way to Brimsdown, with a 4th track between Angel Road & Ponders End (with a 4tph shuttle), but this has proved unaffordable, presumably due to the costs of closing the level crossings (StAR only needs to close Northumberland Park's - making follow-on projects more viable). The gold-plated end-game option was a full 4 track route, enabling a 6tph shuttle. Regardless, ultimately these service will eventually enable the current services to run through non-stop, increasing mainline capacity.

    The next stage probably relies on Crossrail 2, which will justify finishing the job, and delivers 4 tracks all (or at least most of) the way to Cheshunt, if not Broxbourne.

    Personally, I'd like to see the 4-tracks ultimately extend south through Lea Bridge all the way to Stratford to keep freight out of the way, but I seem to be in a bit of a minority with the FOCs in objecting to Lea Bridge's rebuilt ticket office being built on the land needed for the second pair of lines to save money (despite the brilliant BCR of the reopening even if it cost more to rebuild a new ticket office over the tracks as it used to have...)
     
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    To be fair a lot has changed in the last 40 years or so ;). The 'Stow is becoming nicer by the week don't ya know ;)
     
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    Mr jrt "The first stage is to lay a 3rd track from Coppermill Junction to Angel Road to offer a 2tph shuttle as you can't fit more local services into the current timetable without impacting the mainline services. This is StAR"

    All the literature I've read states that the third track is for 4tph, to enable massive house building in Tottenham and Edmonton. That's why Haringey and Enfield are making substantial contributions towards the project. Tottenham Hale already gets a 2tph service!
     
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    Surely the aim is to provide for a 2 tph short working shuttle to Angel Rd in addition to the existing 2 tph service running beyond?
     
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    Northumberland Park only has one train to Stratford each hour. The Angel Road service is hopeless. I'm sure the project is for three-tracking Coppermil Junction- Angel Road for 4tph, with passive provision for a fourth track.
     
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    Indeed, the proposed 2tph shuttle is on top of the current service. The 4tph and 6tph options (with all the infrastructure that would entail) would probably remove stopping services from the existing lines.
     
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    The project definition is in the public domain, it's described in the CP5 enhancements plan, in which it cross refers to the fact it is doing the first part of the capacity improvements in the London and South East RUS; this is indeed only 3 track as far as Angel Rd.

    Seems fairly clear it is a progressive change, three tracking followed by eventual four tracking.
     
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    Normally, how many stations would £20 million help to construct these days?
     
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    Well Lea Bridge is going to cost £11.6m, the Cambridge North station about £23m. So approx one or two stations I reckon!
     
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    Nice to hear it's finally going ahead, and will have virtually no impact on timings given how slow the train crawls to/from Stratford anyway!

    Of course, psychologically, it might seem as if the service is slower as a result.
     
  26. AndrewS_Hatton

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    This fact seems worthy of note.

    I was enquiring about the station as a terminus for the stage coach to Walthamstow, before a rail connection was established to the City of London in 1873 and came across a closed thread.

    So I was unable to post a link to this notice from London Borough of Waltham Forest last July .

    I am not sure exactly how the work is progressing and hope a reader is better informed than me and will update the thread.
     

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    Work is firmly underway, looked to have progressed quite significantly last time I went past (a couple of weeks ago). I can't see any pictures online - I'll see if I can catch one next time I'm in the area.
     
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    £11,600,000 seems a tidy sum to re-instate a station.
     
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    I heard that the plan is for a 3rd track from Lea Bridge to Angel Road, with buffers at the Angel Road end (no points back on the Up and Dn Cambridge), and points back onto the TM lines London end. One train going up and down all day. Unsure on the reliability of this gossip though!
     
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