How long will it be before platform zero is at capacity?
Why not just get rid of the car park and put in another two bays?
I suspect they would have done if the car park wasn't they're!
It could be re-provided upon the opposite side of the River Aire, although whenever or not that should be done is for the 'Speculative Ideas' forum!
Er, assuming by "opposite side" you mean north of the river, that's where I live - so no they blinking well couldn't!
The car parks will be income generators (someone has to pay for this), and are well used by TOC staff judging by the people in uniform I sometimes spot.
Has this seen been developed then ?
Personally I can't quite remember of the top of my head and since you live they're your probably better off to tell us than I am.
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You just deck over the platforms, preferably the ones that are only used by electrics.Of course getting rid of car parking at Leeds station will solve all capacity issues as there’d be no staff to run any trains as there’s nowhere to park at 4.00 in the morning because the staff car park is now platforms. Brilliant idea.
Is there a reason why staff parking can't just be moved into the Dark Arches?You just deck over the platforms, preferably the ones that are only used by electrics.
Is there a reason why staff parking can't just be moved into the Dark Arches?
There is a lot of unused space down there that could be made secure.There's businesses down there which need access, and they are a thoroughfare. I'm sure criminals would love that too.
So how do the businesses cope with the criminals?There's businesses down there which need access, and they are a thoroughfare. I'm sure criminals would love that too.
That's the long term plan of which the current work is the first phase.How long will it be before platform zero is at capacity?
Why not just get rid of the car park and put in another two bays?
That's the long term plan of which the current work is the first phase.
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https://southbankleeds.co.uk/assets...ds-Integrated-Station-Masterplan-LR-v6-DS.pdf
What conflicts would that grade separation resolve? At present the platforms are allocated in a fairly logical way which minimises conflicting moves. I imagine that additional platforms on the former Wellington site will simply shift everything a bit to the North. A lot of the additional platform capacity will be catering for longer trains rather than more frequent trains, so the current 6-track approach may still be sufficient. Ultimately any remodelling of the western approaches will be governed by the routing of HS3/NPR/whatever-they're-calling-it-today.That’s really interesting. So the old Wellington is going to be completely reinstated, right up to the river? Shame about the sacred car park...
With all those extra westward-facing platforms, surely something will have to be done with the western approaches, despite the addition of the HS2 approach. Grade separation of the ex-GN lines?
What conflicts would that grade separation resolve? At present the platforms are allocated in a fairly logical way which minimises conflicting moves. I imagine that additional platforms on the former Wellington site will simply shift everything a bit to the North. A lot of the additional platform capacity will be catering for longer trains rather than more frequent trains, so the current 6-track approach may still be sufficient. Ultimately any remodelling of the western approaches will be governed by the routing of HS3/NPR/whatever-they're-calling-it-today.
I don't see why it wouldn't, although I don't see why that particular route would be better than (say) Bradford Interchange or Morley.Although that presumably kills off the idea for cross-Leeds services coming off the Shipley route and on to 'East Leeds Parkway'
East Leeds Parkway is to some extent a substitute for more west-facing platforms at Leeds, so building the one may remove the need for the other.Although that presumably kills off the idea for cross-Leeds services coming off the Shipley route and on to 'East Leeds Parkway'
It probably works better for those routes in fact, because they have less easy access to the bay platforms at Leeds so if they turn around there they probably have to block a through platform.I don't see why it wouldn't, although I don't see why that particular route would be better than (say) Bradford Interchange or Morley.
That document is an architecture-focused masterplan and doesn't necessarily reflect what rail operational facilities might be provided. However it does indicate that a certain area is set aside for extra platforms if they are needed.
I did raise the issue of throat capacity a few posts back, which may become more of a constraint than platform availability. Because the services on the various lines from these platforms are mostly self-contained (with some exceptions such as London-Harrogate), if this becomes a problem the solution might be more parallel tracks rather than grade separation.
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Work on the temporary platform 1 is coming on (taken while on my way to work if anyone is wondering!)