Level crossing accident on Arun Valley Line 17/02/18

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  1. sarahj

    sarahj Established Member

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    There has been a bad accident involving a car at a level crossing between Horsham and Pullborough. Car is completely trashed. Everyone on the train ok and now on buses. Damage to lineside eq, inc fire. Damage to the 377. Driver in shock, but ok. More to follow.
     
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  3. sarahj

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    Further update. BTP reporting 2 dead. My guess, from the car.
     
  5. Spartacus

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    It would appear so.
     
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    Sky News have just got a breaking story up not a great deal of text currently whilst they update it

    https://news.sky.com/story/two-people-killed-in-horsham-level-crossing-crash-11254150
     
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    There's a road runs almost parallel to it which is much wider, which probably explains it, just people who live down there, the postman and the odd lorry as the other road has a low bridge.
     
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    RAIB on site and being treated as a crime scene. Seems the driver will have to provide as much information as possible as there were no front facing cameras on the train.

    Could take a while to establish what happened, although I am sure many will be able to speculate quite quickly!
     
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-43097342
    Reported on the BBC, thoughts to everybody
     
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    What a shame.
    Does anyone know the unit involved? I assume 377
     
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    Yes it was.
     
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    Not helped by engineering work, alternative route via hove not available

    Buses replace trains between Brighton and Littlehampton on Saturday 17 and Sunday 18 February
    Engineering work is taking place between Brighton and Angmering, closing all lines.

    Buses will replace trains between Brighton and Worthing / Littlehampton.

    On Sunday, services between London Victoria and Littlehampton / Portsmouth Harbour will be diverted to start / terminate at London Bridge and will be diverted via Horsham, not calling at stations via Hove.
     
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    The BBC News article has a photo, captioned as showing the emergency services at the scene, which clearly shows an AHB crossing with the barriers fully down. Obviously I can't rule out the barriers being moved post accident (although it seems unlikely this would be done deliberately), but neither can misuse of the crossing by the driver be ruled out.
    Given that both car driver and passenger were killed it seems unlikely that the road vehicle was struck just a glancing blow.

    Thoughts to all involved, especially the train driver.
     
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    Even with just a glancing blow, with line speed at 75 and a few tons of train, could send the car on a journey to the stars
     
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    As it's a crime scene, nothing must be touched until a full investigation has been carried out. So I am sure the barriers will NOT have been moved.
     
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    They will time out and raise soon anyway unless that can be stopped?
     
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    A picture has been posted onto the twitter feed of the initial disruption tweet, showing a mangled wreck. The media are circling like vultures.
     
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    It looks like it was a long way from being just a glancing blow. 'Luckily' the vehicle ended up in the cess rather than on the other line as there was another service quickly approaching.
     
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    Don't 377 have forward cameras? Nice to see the owner of a nearby campsite offering refreshments to passengers and helping arrange onward transport.
     
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    377/1s - /5s do not.
    377/6s and /7s do.
     
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    It seems none of the units involved had them fitted.
     
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    Surprised they weren’t retrofitted, considering even the 313s have FFCCTV. Insignificant I know but can anyone tell us which service was involved, seeing as the unit number has been revealed already.
     
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    Very sorry to read about this event.

    Presumably the crossing itself will have CCTV fitted?
     
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    Not there, though judging by realtimetrains two other services crossed just before, so there might be other staff who saw the car at the crossing.
     
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    Thanks, that's surprising. I would have imagined that all road/rail LCs would have CCTV (even if not actively monitored at AHB crossings).
     
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    And if they didn't, it may point to a car crossing at the last second.

    I expect the driver will be able to give information once in a condition to talk to others.
     
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    Sadly at least one passenger is whinging about being inconvenienced by the accident on Twitter. Worse still is that someone who has read it appears to know the deceased. I really hate the selfish attitude of some people when tragedies like this occur
     

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