LHCS Mk3 disposals

[Murray J]

Mk3 TGS 44022 Eastleigh Works 10th June 2020

44022 has been scrapped at Eastleigh, presumably at Raxstar.

 

[Mack91]

That was a HST trailer

 

[Jamesrob637]

That was a HST trailer

And it was a month ago. And there's a separate thread for ex-125 vehicles.

 

[Murray J]

Oh ok, can you link that one in please?

 

[DB]

Oh ok, can you link that one in please?

HST coach disposals

Please use this thread to post details of HST Mk3 coach disposals. I will update the list as frequently as I can. Please let me know if I have made any mistakes. Most recent updates are in bold. Further Use: Bachmann 44062 Bellingham Heritage Centre, Northumberland 41204 Birkenshaw Fire...

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[Murray J]

Thanks.

 

[Western 52]

Please use this thread to post details of LHCS Mk3 coach disposals from various companies, including Greater Anglia, GWR, TPX, TfW, Caledonian Sleeper, Chiltern and the long-term stored stock at Long Marston. I will update the list as frequently as I can. Please let me know if I have made any mistakes.

I have also now included BR and early-privatisation era disposals.


Further Use:

3M, Bracknell
10204

Bisley station, Surrey
10516

Chiltern Railways
11094
12012, 12019, 12026, 12027, 12041, 12115, 12151

DATS, Leicester
11018, 11048
11074, 11090, 11092, 11099
12032, 12078, 12092, 12097, 12122, 12133, 12138
82115, 82136, 82138

Eastern Rail Services
10212, 10229
10501, 10502, 10600, 10699

Electric traction, Leicester
82107

Greater Manchester Fire & Rescue
10415
82143

GWR
10551, 10553

Harvington station, Worcestershire
10557

Hawsker station, North Yorkshire
10218

LSL
10224
10411, 10416
10504, 10513, 10519, 10520, 10648, 10650, 10683, 10688
11068, 11070, 11075, 11076, 11077, 11087, 11091, 11098
12111, 12171
82127, 82139

Moreton-in-Marsh Fire Training College
10231
82149

RPSI, Whitehead
10651

ScotRail, Yoker
10256, 10260

SIG, Switzerland
10581, 10673, 10705

WCRC
10598, 10610, 10614, 10703, 10718


Preserved:

Avon Valley Railway
10555

Barry Island Railway
10404
11066, 11072, 11082

Battlefield Railway
10205
10708

Bluebell Railway
10690, 10693

Bo’ness & Kinneil Railway
10580, 10668

Bodmin & Wenford Railway
10618

Caledonian Railway, Brechin
10250

Cambrian Heritage Railway, Oswestry
10722

Colne Valley Railway
82121

Crewe - where will these actually be based?
11007
12011

Crewe Heritage Centre
12114
82118

Dartmoor Railway
10511, 10595, 10611

Didcot Railway Centre
10509, 10527

East Lancashire Railway
10529, 10565, 10573, 10714, 10719

Ecclesbourne Valley Railway
10597

Embsay & Bolton Abbey Railway
10698

Great Central Railway, Loughborough
10558

Great Central (Northern) Railway, Ruddington
10202, 10206
10605
12087, 12134

Mid-Norfolk Railway
10213
10401, 10405, 10414
10607, 10666
11006, 11011, 11067, 11069, 11073, 11080, 11081, 11085, 11100
12008, 12022, 12030, 12031, 12047, 12063, 12073, 12105, 12110, 12129, 12130, 12132, 12147
82125

Midland Railway Centre, Butterley
10403
11096
12009, 12093, 12107, 12150

Nene Valley Railway
10731

North Norfolk Railway
10525

North Yorkshire Moors Railway
10591, 10689

Northampton & Lamport Railway, Pitsford
10412
3 x TSO?
82114

Severn Valley Railway
10569, 10677, 10696

Somerset & Dorset Railway, Midsomer Norton
10258

Swanage Railway
10619

Telford Steam Railway
10543, 10676, 10713

Wensleydale Railway
10522, 10531


Stored:
Carnforth (WCRC)
10245

Doncaster Wabtec
11028

Derby RTC
82126

Great Yarmouth (Eastern Rail Services)
10413
11078, 11095
12021, 12098

Ilford Works (ex-GA)
10241

Long Marston (ex-Caledonian Sleeper)
10506, 10526, 10542, 10561, 10605, 10680, 10706

Long Marston (ex-Chiltern)
11029, 11031
12017, 12036, 12043, 12054, 12094, 12119

Long Marston (DB Regio - long-term stored)
10222, 10237, 10242, 10257
11021, 11033, 11079, 11097
12104, 12165
82150

Long Marston (ex-GA)
10406, 10417
11088, 11093, 11101
12015, 12034, 12035, 12049, 12056, 12061, 12064, 12067, 12079, 12084, 12090, 12091, 12108, 12116, 12118, 12125, 12126, 12137, 12146, 12154, 12159, 12164, 12167

Long Marston (ex-TfW)
10249
12176, 12177, 12178, 12179, 12180, 12181, 12183, 12182, 12184, 12185
82306, 82307, 82308

Longtown (ex-DRS)
82101

Mid-Norfolk Railway (ex-GA)
12030, 12129, 12130
82112, 82133

Southall (WCRC)
10593

Unknown (ex-TfW) - possibly Cardiff Canton?
10259

Wolverton Works (Porterbrook)
10588
12096


Scrapped:

A. Cartwright, Wembley
10552, 10615

Allsop’s, Nottingham
12065

CF Booth, Rotherham
10201, 10215, 10226, 10232, 10233, 10235, 10246, 10253
10500, 10503, 10507, 10508, 10510, 10514, 10523, 10538, 10539, 10540, 10548, 10549, 10554, 10559, 10562, 10566, 10571, 10572, 10574, 10575, 10586, 10599, 10603, 10604, 10613, 10617, 10646, 10647, 10649, 10653, 10654, 10655, 10657, 10658, 10662, 10669, 10670, 10681, 10682, 10684, 10685, 10686, 10687, 10691, 10692, 10695, 10697, 10700, 10701, 10702, 10704, 10709, 10710, 10711, 10712, 10721, 10723, 10724, 10725, 10726, 10727, 10730, 10732
11005, 11024, 11026
12016, 12024, 12045, 12051, 12057, 12058, 12081, 12083, 12095, 12099, 12101, 12103, 12120, 12139, 12141, 12143, 12144, 12148, 12156, 12160, 12163, 12166, 12170
82106, 82109, 82110, 82116, 82120, 82122, 82123, 82128, 82137, 82140, 82141, 82142, 82147, 82148

Clearway Contract Services at Cardiff Cathays
10717

Derby Litchurch Lane
10505, 10528, 10659, 10671
11037
12023, 12070

EMR, Kingsbury
10240
10606
12158

EMR, Snailwell
10550, 10577, 10583, 10592, 10660, 10667, 10678, 10679, 10694, 10716, 10720, 10728

Finnies, Inverness
10547

Frank Berry at Watford
12039

Glasgow Works
12018

Greenhill Junction
11004
12006

Highland Clearance, Muir of Ord
10515, 10663

JT Landscapes, MoD Caerwent
10207, 10209, 10210, 10220, 10221, 10227, 10234, 10238, 10248, 10251, 10252, 10254
10570, 10579, 10582
12140
82119

Middlesex Metals, Wolverton Works
10664

Morpeth
10524, 10652, 10733

Moreton-in-Marsh
10608

Morton of Stirling, Bo'ness & Kinneil Railway
10535

Raxstar, Eastleigh Works
10512, 10567, 10609, 10665, 10672, 10674, 10707

R.M. Penny at Dunster
10521

Sims Metals, Cardiff
10533, 10537, 10560, 10715

Sims Metals, Newport Docks
10402
12005, 12013, 12037, 12040, 12042, 12060, 12062, 12066, 12082, 12089, 12109, 12153
82102, 82103, 82105, 82132, 82152

Vic Berry, Leicester
11025, 11061
12074

I think there's a mk3 at the Gwili railway still? 10517?

 

[nat67]

10237 which was at Long Marston ex DRS set is now at Leicester LIP in Dark blue repainted.

 

[fgwrich]

One to update the list with @Phil Scott as 10526 has left Long Marston and been delivered by road to Sheffield Park (Bluebell Railway). I believe the plan will be for 3 to live at Sheffield Park, and one to live at Horsted Keynes - so we may be about to see another arrive.

 

[Phil Scott]

I think there's a mk3 at the Gwili railway still? 10517?

Thanks - I'd also missed 10518 at the Dartmoor Railway. Both now added, along with 10526 at Bluebelll

 

[Phil Scott]

Former TfW coaches 10249, 12176-185 have moved to Castle Donnington. Not sure why, but they could possibly have been sold.

Additionally, Mk 3 sleeper 10544 is at Reid Freight, Stoke on Trent. Presumably stored there waiting for onward movement to somewhere else. Again, not sure where it will be heading.

 

[dmncf]

I was lucky to see Mark 3 Sleeper 10689 pass me at Abbot's House Farm campsite on the North Yorkshire Moors Railway. I doubt it will travel the line often. Is it destined to be accommodation?

 

[james60059]

Former TfW coaches 10249, 12176-185 have moved to Castle Donnington. Not sure why, but they could possibly have been sold.

I was lucky enough to get the ensemble near me on Thursday on the trip to Castle Donington.

 

[Phil Scott]

12049 has moved from Long Marston to the Northampton & Lamport Railway. There should be two more also due to arrive, but unsure of their identities currently.

 

[nat67]

12049 has moved from Long Marston to the Northampton & Lamport Railway. There should be two more also due to arrive, but unsure of their identities currently.

According the NLR website the other identities are 12067 & 12118.

 

[Phil Scott]

12049 has moved from Long Marston to the Northampton & Lamport Railway. There should be two more also due to arrive, but unsure of their identities currently.

According to N&LR’s website, the other two are 12067 and 12118

 

[Phil Scott]

The Bluebell Railway has acquired a fourth sleeper with 10605

 

[Murray J]

The Bluebell Railway has acquired a fourth sleeper with 10605

Nice, I'd imagine it's making its way to the bluebell via road?

 

[Phil Scott]

Apparently 10506 was despatched from Long Marston to CF Booth back in January 2019!

So this leaves only five of the ex-Caledonian Mk 3 sleepers not accounted for:
10542, 10561, 10680, 10706 stored at Long Marston
10544 stored at Reid Freight, Stoke-on-Trent

 

[Western Sunset]

Anyone know what the Mk3 sleeper at Swanage is used for please? It sits on CW bogies and I think it's 10619. The underframe looks rather ropey.

 

[fgwrich]

Anyone know what the Mk3 sleeper at Swanage is used for please? It sits on CW bogies and I think it's 10619. The underframe looks rather ropey.

The Swanage one is indeed 10619. It did used to provide Volunteer Accommodation, however it's been a fair few years since I was last down there unfortunately so I'm not sure if it is still used or not.

Mk3a - SLEP - Shed83a

10619 at Swanage 11/05/14

shed83a.smugmug.com

 

[Western Sunset]

Thanks.
I took almost the exact same shot today, though the old wooden coach body is no longer there beyond the Mk3.
Perhaps it's just used for storage now.

 

[Journeyman]

The Swanage one is indeed 10619. It did used to provide Volunteer Accommodation, however it's been a fair few years since I was last down there unfortunately so I'm not sure if it is still used or not.

Mk3a - SLEP - Shed83a

10619 at Swanage 11/05/14

shed83a.smugmug.com

You can spot due to the lack of door indicator lights that it was one of the very early sleeper withdrawals, such as when ECML services were axed.

 

[northernbelle]

You can spot due to the lack of door indicator lights that it was one of the very early sleeper withdrawals, such as when ECML services were axed.

Indeed. It still has its original interior including the yellow vestibules and brown/orange trim in the berths.

It's proven a highly useful facility over the years as no doubt other heritage railways have found.

 

[Phil Scott]

Apparently some ex-Greater Anglia Mk 3s, plus some ex-TfW DVTs have turned up on the Great Central Railway. Does anyone know their identities of who now owns them?

 

[Phil Scott]

To answer my own question, 82306 is now at the GCR but owned by DATS

 

[superjohn]

So this leaves only five of the ex-Caledonian Mk 3 sleepers not accounted for:
10542, 10561, 10680, 10706 stored at Long Marston
10544 stored at Reid Freight, Stoke-on-Trent

10561 was delivered to the Mid Norfolk Railway earlier this week.

 

[47444]

So to turn this thread on its head, so to speak, I think Phil's amazing list leaves out the following (in numerical order) of which most can be accounted for (I should add that none of my records are raw source, all are taken from other places such as ABRail or RCTS, etc):

10211 - DB Cargo train, Toton
10217/19/25 - GWR Sleeper fleet
10530 - unknown, my last record has it privately owned in the Glasgow area (date unknown)
10532/34 - GWR sleeper fleet
10541 - Royal Scotsman State Car 5 (99968)
10545 - unknown
10546 - DB Cargo train, Toton
10556 - Royal Scotsman Services Car (99969)
10563 - GWR sleeper fleet
10578 - my last record has it based on (or owned by) East Somerset Railway before being scrapped at Wolverton (no date)
10584/89/90/94/96/601 - GWR sleeper fleet
10602 - unknown, my last record has it at Ruddington (date unknown)
10612/16 - GWR sleeper fleet
10656 - my last record has it based on (or owned by) East Somerset Railway before being scrapped at Wolverton (no date)
10661 - unknown, my last record has it at Wolverton labelled a "concept coach"
10729 - Northern Belle
10734 (ex 2914) - Northern Belle
11039 - DB Cargo train, Toton
12029 - unknown, my last record has this stored at Long Marston with Chiltern pool code HOHQ
12046 - unknown, my last record has this still in service with Greater Anglia (clearly should not be so)
12100/42/61 - GWR sleeper fleet
12602-12610, 12613-621, 12623/25/27 - Chiltern plug door coaches (do the missing numbers account for some of the unaccounted for coaches above?)
82111 - Network Rail test train
82113 - unknown, my last record has this stored at Long Marston with Chiltern pool code HOHQ
82124/29/45 - Network Rail test train
82146 - DB Cargo train, Toton
82301-305, 82309 - Chiltern DVT in use

If any gaps or errors in this list can be pointed out, it will fully account for the fleet.

Thanks in anticipation

Tony

 

[57Tonic]

If any gaps or errors in this list can be pointed out, it will fully account for the fleet.

Thanks in anticipation

Tony
[/QUOTE]

10545 Nightstar Generator Van 96371, Eastern Rail Leicester
12046 Long Marston 07.05.20
82113 Bo'ness and Kinneil Rly (class 19 experimental ?)

Can someone else confirm this..

 

[47444]

If any gaps or errors in this list can be pointed out, it will fully account for the fleet.

Thanks in anticipation

Tony

10545 Nightstar Generator Van 96371, Eastern Rail Leicester
12046 Long Marston 07.05.20
82113 Bo'ness and Kinneil Rly (class 19 experimental ?)

Can someone else confirm this..
[/QUOTE]

Thanks for that 57T, very useful

I agree on 10545 - I had added 96371 to my "loco" list but not deleted 10545 from my coaching list

Tony