http://www.brfares.com/#faredetail?...xpert=on&flow=1&multi=0&fare=8&rte=42&tkt=OPR £21.10 with a railcard LM ONLY Am trying to book this fares. Outward travel 15 May returning 17 May. For the outward journey I have tried using Thetrainline and VT for the prupose of getting times for valid trains. (clicking on show slower routes then check for trains next to this fare) It is hopeless! You will ticket is not valid for departure between 16.30 & 19.30 It is showing departures up to 15.04 but then nothing until 19.34 which doesn't make sense to me. It also says in the restrictions: "A connecting service can be used to complete a journey begun at a valid time." So does that mean that provided I leave LIV before 16.30 and get connecting services I can finish my journey. Surely though, if you apply the above restrictions, even travel on the 16.04 would be permitted as follows: 16.04 LIV-BHM 17.48 18.14 BHM - EUS 20.27 I know the following would be barred as I would be leaving LIV after 16.30 16.34 LIV-STA 17.41 17.56 STA - EUS 19.50 HOWEVER, would I be able to catch to 16.04 to Stafford arriving at 17.10 then have a longer wait in order to catch the 17.56 from Stafford - or would this not be classed as using a connecting service as to catch this train I could just have easily left on the 16.34 which is not allowed on the restrictions. (in which case if really wanted to get the 16.04, must I therefore travel via BMH as above)? I am also thinking of doing the following in one of the diretions (not sure which one yet it might actually be on the RETURN leg) as I've never taken the lines between Crewe and Stafford via Stoke or Birmingham to Euston via Northamption. Liverpool to Crewe LM Crewe to Stafford (via Stoke) LM Stafford to Birmingham New Street LM Birmingham New Street to London Euston (via Northamption) LM I am assuming this would be a permitted route because when I enter in Stoke on Trent and Birmingham as via points the fare still comes up. Would I need to take extra consideration for the time restrictions of I was to do this (doing it this way to take considrably longer or would be impossible for a journey planner to produce a journey plan) or is all that matters that I start the journey at a permitted time. I know that a break of journey is NOT permitted on the outward journey, but I think I am right in saying that provided I do not leave the station (and travel on the next connecting service by LM) this would not be considered a break. Thanks guys!