LNER Azuma (Class 800/801) Diagrams

[Class455]

No, there will continue to be some stabling at Neville Hill. If you pick a date on RTT (29th May, for instance) the only ECS workings to/from Doncaster Carr are those listed; clearly I would expect more to be added as STP workings as time goes on, but for the time being that list looks accurate.

That's exactly what I was thinking

 

[cactustwirly]

No, there will continue to be some stabling at Neville Hill. If you pick a date on RTT (29th May, for instance) the only ECS workings to/from Doncaster Carr are those listed; clearly I would expect more to be added as STP workings as time goes on, but for the time being that list looks accurate.

I thought the contract with Agility trains meant that they had to be handed back to Hitachi every night?

With the exception of Worcester Hereford sidings, all the GWR 800s stable at Hitachi depots, I'm assuming this is the case with the LNER units, so I'd be surprised if they use Neville Hill (Bounds Green and Craigentinny are now operated by Hitachi)

The 802s are leased by a traditional lease arrangement, so they stable at Laira and Long Rock.

 

[800001]

I thought the contract with Agility trains meant that they had to be handed back to Hitachi every night?

With the exception of Worcester Hereford sidings, all the GWR 800s stable at Hitachi depots, I'm assuming this is the case with the LNER units, so I'd be surprised if they use Neville Hill (Bounds Green and Craigentinny are now operated by Hitachi)

The 802s are leased by a traditional lease arrangement, so they stable at Laira and Long Rock.

They are 100% stabling at Neville Hill, same as they will stable at Heaton.

On the initial 6 diagrams, 2 sets will start/finish there diagrams at Neville Hill.

 

[mildertduck]

Most of these diagrams will be converted gradually over a period of time, not all at once so please make sure you check the seat map if you are intending to travel on an Azuma before booking to avoid disappointment. I have checked the seat map for a few diagrams, DN804 for example should be converted by the end of May while DN806 will not be converted until the end of June at least.

Is the only way of finding out by checking the seat map at this point? I'm looking at travelling South on 29 May and North on 4 June: in the latter case, I can book on 1D11 without issue, but on the afternoon of the 29 May, are there any options heading South after 1A33?

 

[800001]

Is the only way of finding out by checking the seat map at this point? I'm looking at travelling South on 29 May and North on 4 June: in the latter case, I can book on 1D11 without issue, but on the afternoon of the 29 May, are there any options heading South after 1A33?

1A43 17:14, 1A41 16:45, 1A46 18:45, 1A50 19:45, have a look at the above ones. Not fully sure which week they go over to Azuma, but from diagrams these appear to be planned for Azuma.

 

[cactustwirly]

Anyone know the number of 91 diagrams?

Those 6 diagrams look awfully close to the 25% of 91/Mk4 services

 

[Jamesrob637]

Rather surprised nobody has mentioned these yet but along with the initial DN801 diagram, Today's Railways have published the first 6 initial Monday - Friday diagrams which are due to convert to Azumas in their May edition, these will be as follows:

DN801
3A12 04:50 Doncaster Carr IEP Depot - Hull
1A12 07:00 Hull - London Kings Cross
1D11 11:03 London Kings Cross- Leeds
1A33 13:45 Leeds - London King's Cross
1H10 17:18 London Kings Cross - Hull
1J10 20:28 Hull - Doncaster
5J10 21:35 Doncaster - Doncaster Carr IEP Depot

DN802
3A06 05:05 Doncaster Carr IEP Depot - Leeds
1A06 06:40 Leeds - London King's Cross
1B82 10:06 London King's Cross - Newark North Gate
1B83 11:56 Newark North Gate - London King's Cross
1D17 14:03 London King's Cross - Leeds
1A41 16:45 Leeds - London King's Cross
1D30 19:33 London King's Cross - Leeds
5D30 21:58 Leeds - Neville Hill T&RSMD

DN803
5A01 04:26 Neville Hill T&RSMD - Leeds
1A01 05:05 Leeds - London King's Cross
1D05 08:03 London King's Cross - Leeds
1A25 10:45 Leeds - London King's Cross
1D20 15:33 London King's Cross - Leeds
1A46 18:15 Leeds - London King's Cross

DN804
5D07 08:08 Bounds Green T&RSMD - London King's Cross
1D07 09:03 London King's Cross - Leeds
1A28 11:45 Leeds - London King's Cross
1D18 14:33 London King's Cross - Leeds
1A43 17:14 Leeds - London King's Cross
1D31 20:03 London King's Cross - Leeds
5D31 22:56 Leeds - Doncaster Carr IEP Depot

DN805
5D01 04:43 Bounds Green T&RSMD - London King's Cross
1D01 05:55 London King's Cross - Leeds
1A18 08:45 Leeds - London King's Cross
1D12 11:33 London King's Cross - Leeds
1A34 14:15 Leeds - London King's Cross
1D23 17:03 London King's Cross - Leeds
1A50 19:45 Leeds - London King's Cross
5Y50 00:09 London King's Cross - Bounds Green T&RSMD

DN806
1A02 05:30 Leeds - London King's Cross
1D06 08:33 London King's Cross - Leeds
1A26 11:15 Leeds - London King's Cross
1B86 14:06 London King's Cross - Newark North Gate
1B87 15:56 Newark North Gate - London King's Cross
1D26 18:03 London King's Cross - Skipton
5D26 21:29 Skipton - Neville Hill T&RSMD


Most of these diagrams will be converted gradually over a period of time, not all at once so please make sure you check the seat map if you are intending to travel on an Azuma before booking to avoid disappointment. I have checked the seat map for a few diagrams, DN804 for example should be converted by the end of May while DN806 will not be converted until the end of June at least.

Very handy this; thank you. I hope to get one in on 24 June so all but DN806 should have gone over by then, maybe DN806 itself also if late-June is what you are quoting.

 

[Islandexpress]

Do we know whether, in time and full bi-mode introduction whether the 07:10(08??) Leeds - Edinburgh - Aberdeen service stays? Always seemed a bit of an odd one and a revenue earning positioning service (Neville Hill to York), given that I assume the majority of 800s will overnight in Doncaster Carr. Will this become a Doncaster - Aberdeen service?

Personally, I love the 07:10 service, have been a regular user from Leeds to Edinburgh and keeps me off Voyagers!

 

[800001]

Do we know whether, in time and full bi-mode introduction whether the 07:10(08??) Leeds - Edinburgh - Aberdeen service stays? Always seemed a bit of an odd one and a revenue earning positioning service (Neville Hill to York), given that I assume the majority of 800s will overnight in Doncaster Carr. Will this become a Doncaster - Aberdeen service?

Personally, I love the 07:10 service, have been a regular user from Leeds to Edinburgh and keeps me off Voyagers!

I think it would stay, often a fair few passengers on when it arrives at York.
Neville Hill will still see unite stabled there, so this working is still feasible.

 

[Class455]

Very handy this; thank you. I hope to get one in on 24 June so all but DN806 should have gone over by then, maybe DN806 itself also if late-June is what you are quoting.

No worries!
I suspect it should switch over to mid June as I had a look at the seat map for one of the trains due to be worked by DN806 showing an Azuma layout for a date towards the end of June

 

[Jamesrob637]

No worries!
I suspect it should switch over to mid June as I had a look at the seat map for one of the trains due to be worked by DN806 showing an Azuma layout for a date towards the end of June

It'll likely only be between Leeds and Wakefield Westgate unless one stops at Donny and I buy an add-on from Wakey to there, but a ride is a ride nonetheless

 

[cactustwirly]

No worries!
I suspect it should switch over to mid June as I had a look at the seat map for one of the trains due to be worked by DN806 showing an Azuma layout for a date towards the end of June

The LNER website says that the IET goes to Skipton from the 27th June

 

[Jamesrob637]

The LNER website says that the IET goes to Skipton from the 27th June

Thanks so I won't get the 11:15 off Leeds on 24 June. 05:30 is just a little antisocial for my liking

 

[JonathanH]

With the exception of Worcester Hereford sidings, all the GWR 800s stable at Hitachi depots

The unit for 1C32/1A08 stables at Exeter St Davids and is booked 800/3 (although an 802/1 is not unknown).

The stabling arrangements for the East Coast fleet and where and how many can be stabled / outberth are clearly set out in the TARA.

 

[Railperf]

Press launch to and from Peterborough took place today. Expect coverage on the evening news.
The runs were given slack timings of almost an hour in each direction for the 76.25 miles. Nothing to compare with the exhilerating high speed press runs of the past. The outbound run arrived 4 early according to RTT. The return run was 5 minutes late arriving at Kings Cross! Lets see what the press made of that!

 

[Crun]

Press launch to and from Peterborough took place today. Expect coverage on the evening news.
The runs were given slack timings of almost an hour in each direction for the 76.25 miles. Nothing to compare with the exhilerating high speed press runs of the past. The outbound run arrived 4 early according to RTT. The return run was 5 minutes late arriving at Kings Cross! Lets see what the press made of that!

What time, approximately, will the first Azuma be at Peterborough station tomorrow?

 

[Railperf]

11:50a.m is the 11:03 Kings Cross to Leeds.

 

[Chiltern006]

Does anyone know the diagrams for Sat 19 May. Thanks

 

[cactustwirly]

Does anyone know the diagrams for Sat 19 May. Thanks

Is that Saturday 18th May or Sunday 19th May?

Should be diagram DN801

 

[Jamesrob637]

Initial run just two late into Leeds - pretty good. Looking forward to trying one out in a few weeks.

 

[cactustwirly]

Initial run just two late into Leeds - pretty good. Looking forward to trying one out in a few weeks.

Looks like it was caught behind a late running Donny-Leeds stopper

 

[Jamesrob637]

Looks like it was caught behind a late running Donny-Leeds stopper

2 minutes behind that - so the ex-Donny stopper can get away with a (slight) delay.

 

[Chiltern006]

Is that Saturday 18th May or Sunday 19th May?

Should be diagram DN801

18th May

 

[TrainTube]

Which diagrams are Azumas on out of Kings Cross tomorrow?

 

[northrob]

18th May

Referring back to previous posts in this thread gives you a diagram of:

1A12 0700 Hull to London Kings Cross
1D11 1103 London Kings Cross to Leeds
1A33 1345 Leeds to London Kings Cross
1H10 1718 London Kings Cross to Hull

Plus the relevant empty stock workings to and from Doncaster Carr in the morning & evening

 

[cactustwirly]

Which diagrams are Azumas on out of Kings Cross tomorrow?

1103 to Leeds
1718 to Hull

 

[northrob]

Which diagrams are Azumas on out of Kings Cross tomorrow?

EDIT - cactustwirly beat me it!

 

[TrainTube]

1103 to Leeds
1718 to Hull

The 1103 to Leeds was previously done by an EMT power car, do you know where that has gone to?

 

[cactustwirly]

The 1103 to Leeds was previously done by an EMT power car, do you know where that has gone to?

Still with LNER, now a spare, booked to work diagram NL101 in Sunday evenings (1845 Leeds to Kings X & return)

 

[Julian G]

800102 working today’s diagram.