LNER Azuma (Class 800/801)

[superkev]

Just affix a sign "TRESPASSERS WILL BE ELECTROCUTED". Sorted.

The law in this country dosent accept that everyone can read. Nanny state.
K

 

[59CosG95]

The law in this country dosent accept that everyone can read. Nanny state.
K

I would argue that the “nanny state” does indeed accept that not everyone can read, because it’s a truth - not everyone can read English.

Also, it has apparently actually been demonstrated the the azumas do interfere with signalling systems whereas the existing trains don't - whatever the actual reason, the azumas are not compatible with the infrastructure, but older train are.

A point worth mentioning that. It’s also worth noting that the majority of electrification on the GWML is new, with newer signalling systems using axle counters (which are less prone to interference, on the whole - the faulty one at Moreton this time last year is an exception!), while the ECML is still mainly using track circuits tuned to an AC frequency out of the range of the 90s, 91s etc. using the route daily. Said circuits may not be tuned out of the range of the Azumas and their ilk.

 

[AlexNL]

Couldn't get much more clear than this, right?


Pictured: "Danger, electrocution risk" sign, sourced from Safety Signs & Notices.co.uk

 

[Grumbler]

Couldn't get much more clear than this, right?

View attachment 56188
Pictured: "Danger, electrocution risk" sign, sourced from Safety Signs & Notices.co.uk

Exactamundo!

 

[spinba11]

I was a Newark Northgate on Friday and saw a 800 with no cables attached on the upper rows, they were still there on the bottom row. It was the same all along the train.

 

[800001]

I was a Newark Northgate on Friday and saw a 800 with no cables attached on the upper rows, they were still there on the bottom row. It was the same all along the train.

Some carriages have 2, some 3 and some 4.

 

[Wivenswold]

I would argue that the “nanny state” does indeed accept that not everyone can read, because it’s a truth - not everyone can read English.

You left out the blind, partially or impaired sighted, they outnumber non-English speakers 20/1.

 

[92002]

What seems to have happened is that the DfT has turned round to Hitachi and said 'we are not paying Network Rail to make the rail network compatible with your trains given that your competitors products don't cause these issues'.

Obviously this is at odds with what Network Rail are doing on the northern ECML, but I get the impression that the EMC problems aren't limited to the the northern ECML. It's just that the northern ECML EMC issues are much greater than anywhere else. That's my take on it anyway.

Another test run in the system for Wednesday, reputedly running on electric. From Doncaster to Inverness. If it takes in the New electrified area could run on old ECML, newish lines to Newbridge on the Bathgate line, then the new lines to Dunblane recently switched on..
So guess we shall see and hear of results at some point.

 

[43096]

Another test run in the system for Wednesday, reputedly running on electric. From Doncaster to Inverness. If it takes in the New electrified area could run on old ECML, newish lines to Newbridge on the Bathgate line, then the new lines to Dunblane recently switched on..
So guess we shall see and hear of results at some point.

I’ll be impressed if it gets to Inverness on electric...

 

[Grumbler]

I’ll be impressed if it gets to Inverness on electric...

Of course they can - what do you think all those long cables are for?

 

[td97]

Another test run in the system for Wednesday, reputedly running on electric.

When was the last time they utilised OLE north of Doncaster (or is it York?)? I personally have never seen one running on the north ECML on electric.

This is the path for anyone interested: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97545/2018/12/05/advanced

An eventual 433:146 miles (basically 3:1) of electric:diesel running for London-Inverness is a remarkable improvement on the current 0:545 ratio.

 

[43096]

Of course they can - what do you think all those long cables are for?

 

[59CosG95]

You left out the blind, partially or impaired sighted, they outnumber non-English speakers 20/1.

Apologies Wivenswold. How much do they outnumber those who are literate in English, as opposed to those who can speak the lingo fluently?

 

[Roger100]

When was the last time they utilised OLE north of Doncaster (or is it York?)? I personally have never seen one running on the north ECML on electric.

The last one I photographed running up here on electric was 801101 on 19th March 2018. Mind you I haven't really taken much notice since then, although all the 800 and 802 units I've photographed locally were running on diesel. This unit was running north near Bradbury, about half way between Darlington and Durham.

 

[bnsf734]

I was at Doncaster station today around 1550 and saw a 9 car Azuma depart northwards on Electric (acceleration was **** off a shovel, pan was up and diesels quiet) It looks like it was on this path:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97201/2018/12/04/advanced

running from Kings Cross to Shaftholme Junction so they can get there OK.

 

[td97]

The last one I photographed running up here on electric was 801101 on 19th March 2018.

Thanks for that, I thought it had been quite some time

 

[43096]

When was the last time they utilised OLE north of Doncaster (or is it York?)? I personally have never seen one running on the north ECML on electric.

This is the path for anyone interested: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97545/2018/12/05/advanced

An eventual 433:146 miles (basically 3:1) of electric:diesel running for London-Inverness is a remarkable improvement on the current 0:545 ratio.

Left Doncaster with pans down and diesel engines running (let’s call them what they are - not this “GU” nonsense).

 

[92002]

Left Doncaster with pans down and diesel engines running (let’s call them what they are - not this “GU” nonsense).

Arrived Edinburgh 5E at 1335, with both pantographs raised. Departed 2E after changing to diesel. 801202 leading 801201.

 

[43096]

Arrived Edinburgh 5E at 1335, with both pantographs raised. Departed 2E after changing to diesel. 801202 leading 801201.

Must have been Berwick or somewhere they put the pans up - passed Newcastle on diesel. Units are 800202/201 I suspect...

 

[92002]

Must have been Berwick or somewhere they put the pans up - passed Newcastle on diesel. Units are 800202/201 I suspect...

No doubt there may be a photo or two at some point.

 

[92002]

Must have been Berwick or somewhere they put the pans up - passed Newcastle on diesel. Units are 800202/201 I suspect...

Both units unbranded and don't carry any unit number.

 

[43096]

Both units unbranded and don't carry any unit number.

They do carry unit numbers.

 

[92002]

They do carry unit numbers.

 

[43096]

View attachment 56213

There are two ends and two sides to the unit...

 

[mullac30]

Why is it departing on diesel if electrification is now up to Stirling?

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Why is it departing on diesel if electrification is now up to Stirling?

There could be several reasons, but the key one is that ORR has not yet signed off the route north of Falkirk for public use.

 

[mullac30]

There could be several reasons, but the key one is that ORR has not yet signed off the route north of Falkirk for public use.

But isn't a test train?

 

[FQTV]

Pans were down and running on diesel through Durham at 10:45.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

But isn't a test train?

Probably not for the Stirling OHLE though.
There must be another reason for its trip to Inverness.

 

[Grumbler]

They do carry unit numbers.

Unfortunately the unit numbers applied were the same colour as the background.....
Reminds me of Tommy Cooper - "I have some blue socks, with blue spots...".