LNER Azuma (Class 800/801)

[westv]

It turns out I was wrong anyway, it seems the loaned EMT HST rake works the Hull Executive diagram so that’s probably what they’re trying to get rid of first

Keep up, it's only been like that for the last four yeàrs.

 

[cactustwirly]

It turns out I was wrong anyway, it seems the loaned EMT HST rake works the Hull Executive diagram so that’s probably what they’re trying to get rid of first

It isn't loaned, it's a full LNER HST set! (Although the Powercars are confusingly still in EMT livery)

 

[Class455]

It isn't loaned, it's a full LNER HST set! (Although the Powercars are confusingly still in EMT livery)

And that's despite the fact that LNER already received two power cars from EMT which they've re-engined and repainted into their livery

 

[TractiveEffort]

The 800s have the same engines as the 802s, it's just that the DfT has limited the power output to save fuel/money on Maintenance.
Some GWR 800s have the engines 'uprated' and they'll outperform an HST from 0-80mph

All GWR 800’s & 802’s have the same engine power output - 700W

 

[cactustwirly]

And that's despite the fact that LNER already received two power cars from EMT which they've re-engined and repainted into their livery

Yes! 43061 and 43075 are no longer EMT powercars, and haven't worked the MML since they were leased to LNER!
The only time an actual EMT powercar works that service is when either 061 or 075 is on an exam.

 

[anamyd]

All GWR 800’s & 802’s have the same engine power output - 700W

700W is less than 1hp, which would struggle to move a train. my understanding is that on GWR, the 802s are on a 940hp "power map", some of the 800s are on a 750hp "eco map" and some of the 800s are on a 940hp "eco map". Not sure what LNER are going with.

 

[59CosG95]

700W is less than 1hp, which would struggle to move a train. my understanding is that on GWR, the 802s are on a 940hp "power map", some of the 800s are on a 750hp "eco map" and some of the 800s are on a 940hp "eco map". Not sure what LNER are going with.

I'm fairly sure he meant 700kW...

 

[anamyd]

I'm fairly sure he meant 700kW...

That makes more sense, and I realise now he was referring to the generator output

 

[A7rud]

There were 3 test trains from Doncaster today all arriving around 1400. The third was 801101. Can anyone please id the first couple?

 

[43096]

And that's despite the fact that LNER already received two power cars from EMT which they've re-engined and repainted into their livery

LNER haven’t re-engined any power cars. If you take an extra set, normal practice is to need something to power it...

 

[anamyd]

...so LNER now have a couple of VP185s...? or did they take a couple of the ex-Grand Central buffered MTU power cars...?

 

[59CosG95]

...so LNER now have a couple of VP185s...? or did they take a couple of the ex-Grand Central buffered MTU power cars...?

Yes - 43061 & 43075 - both still in EMT livery - have joined the IECP pool code for LNER powercars. The hire is as close to permanent as it can be without repainting them, so permanent in fact that 43061's lost its "Fearless Foxes" nameplates.

 

[TractiveEffort]

I'm fairly sure he meant 700kW...

Ah yes, sorry, tired typo, all GWR 800/802 are running at the 700KW setting.

 

[Class455]

LNER haven’t re-engined any power cars. If you take an extra set, normal practice is to need something to power it...

I was talking about 43272 and 43274

 

[43096]

I was talking about 43272 and 43274

I know what you were talking about. I was just pointing out that LNER did not re-engine them.

 

[59CosG95]

I know what you were talking about. I was just pointing out that LNER did not re-engine them.

43096's right, you know. They transferred to East Coast, when they were still the franchise operator - to be more pedantic, BRUSH re-engined them after transfer to East Coast.

 

[43096]

43096's right, you know. They transferred to East Coast, when they were still the franchise operator - to be more pedantic, BRUSH re-engined them after transfer to East Coast.

And Porterbrook paid for it!

 

[xotGD]

This thread for talking about the new rubbish has drifted into a discussion on the old rubbish.

So are we looking at May for the first passenger service?

 

[BigB]

So to keep this back on topic...
Can anyone advise what has been working 5Q30/5Q31 today, and is this acceptance testing or has driver training started yet?

Thanks

 

[59CosG95]

And Porterbrook paid for it!

I should probably hand in my pedantry P45 then.

This thread for talking about the new rubbish has drifted into a discussion on the old rubbish.

So are we looking at May for the first passenger service?

Most likely, pending any further farces. There've been 3 Azuma test workings in quick succession through Peterborough most of this week - 5Q55, 5Q65 & 5Q75, all roughly 10 minutes apart. Power draw testing, perhaps?

 

[westv]

This thread for talking about the new rubbish has drifted into a discussion on the old rubbish.

So are we looking at May for the first passenger service?

May which year?

 

[cactustwirly]

This thread for talking about the new rubbish has drifted into a discussion on the old rubbish.

So are we looking at May for the first passenger service?

No, I think it's April

 

[59CosG95]

No, I think it's April

Very possibly true. I made a stab in the dark at May (this year!) as the timetable change is (as always) due then, but April isn't a bad shout for a few "preview" diagrams prior to squadron service.

 

[cactustwirly]

Very possibly true. I made a stab in the dark at May (this year!) as the timetable change is (as always) due then, but April isn't a bad shout for a few "preview" diagrams prior to squadron service.

The GWR introduction wasn't based on timetable changes, as they'll keep the same timetable for now, they were introduced when enough units ahad been accepted and enough crew had been trained.

 

[3973EXL]

800106 on the late running 5X82 Eastleigh to Acton ML then 5X83 to Doncaster.

 

[SHerr]

Any news on the EMC testing around York from a few weeks back? LNERs top brass were thanking all the suppliers on Twitter etc for co-operation which you could have read as being successful- but nothing seems to have been issued officially and test trains still seem to be Diesel in York.

 

[800001]

Any news on the EMC testing around York from a few weeks back? LNERs top brass were thanking all the suppliers on Twitter etc for co-operation which you could have read as being successful- but nothing seems to have been issued officially and test trains still seem to be Diesel in York.

Still ongoing. 4-5+ weeks of testing, of which last week was week 4.

 

[a_c_skinner]

And any news of those cables you can climb?

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

801101 in London King’s Cross

 

[JDEunos]

Saw one pull in to Leeds this evening, most of the seat covers had been removed! Or not yet installed. I’m sure the ones that have been recently had dark grey seating installed...