LNER Azuma (Class 800/801)

[anamyd]

Thanks guys and I agree

 

[greyman42]

As such, I feel that the case of the "death ladder" is more pressing on the ECML than the GWML, although I think that the GWR 800s/802s should receive similar modifications for the sakes of safety and uniformity when a permanent solution is found.

Which modifications are you referring to?

Until then, the LNER staff are being told to be extra vigilant.

I have an inkling that the reason this might not apply as much to GWR is that all the Series 1 OLE is newer, and follows the standard European clearances between platform & OLE of 3.5m (alongside reduced live envelopes with the Single Insulator "gooseneck" Cantilevers), while the ECML Mk3a/Mk3b OLEMI-vintage equipment is nominally follows the British Standard clearance of 2.75m, alongside more live OLE components.

As such, I feel that the case of the "death ladder" is more pressing on the ECML than the GWML, although I think that the GWR 800s/802s should receive similar modifications for the sakes of safety and uniformity when a permanent solution is found.

I don't think anything will be done about it. It will be forgotten about and swept under the carpet.

 

[221129]

800109 has been to Edinburgh tonight. Possibly the first 800 to arrive into platform 5 on Electric power.

 

[59CosG95]

800109 has been to Edinburgh tonight. Possibly the first 800 to arrive into platform 5 on Electric power.

It was certainly the first into P5 full-stop earlier today!

 

[swt_passenger]

Which modifications are you referring to?

Surely in the context of the earlier posts, 59CosG95 was referring to the yet to be determined solution originally foreseen by the Rail article, in the post I mentioned earlier? Whatever detail they decide, it will be some sort of modification, yes?

 

[jymiee]

Maybe they are aiming for an "Official" launch on May 15th - but will do a soft intro before then to avoid any bad publicity from any issues that might arise - such as botched aircon leaking onto the heads of vip dignitaries? Not that anything like that would ever happen on a government procured fleet like these!

They are doing rehearsal runs that involve off duty staff and their/friends families in the coming weeks to simulate services running to timetable.

 

[greyman42]

Surely in the context of the earlier posts, 59CosG95 was referring to the yet to be determined solution originally foreseen by the Rail article, in the post I mentioned earlier? Whatever detail they decide, it will be some sort of modification, yes?

I'm with you now, thanks.

 

[hexagon789]

Is there much chance of Azumas on Anglo-Scottish services in mid-June at all? Or is that likely to be months away?

 

[_toommm_]

Is there much chance of Azumas on Anglo-Scottish services in mid-June at all? Or is that likely to be months away?

Limited to Leeds and Hull until they get the issues sorted out with the signalling north of Leeds.

 

[hexagon789]

Limited to Leeds and Hull until they get the issues sorted out with the signalling north of Leeds.

Thanks, wasn't sure how quickly they were going to have that sorted, I'd read that they'd already modded the signalling up to Edinburgh but I think still had to test the trains with it to ensure everything was fine.

 

[221129]

Thanks, wasn't sure how quickly they were going to have that sorted, I'd read that they'd already modded the signalling up to Edinburgh but I think still had to test the trains with it to ensure everything was fine.

Well one has been into Edinburgh from Newcastle under the wires this week.

 

[hexagon789]

Well one has been into Edinburgh from Newcastle under the wires this week.

Hmm, didn't it use one of the newly extended platforms at Waverley? Possibly no. 5?

 

[_toommm_]

Well one has been into Edinburgh from Newcastle under the wires this week.

Wasn't it on diesel only though IIRC?

 

[swt_passenger]

Hmm, didn't it use one of the newly extended platforms at Waverley? Possibly no. 5?

It did as reported in post #894 of this thread, yesterday.

 

[hexagon789]

It did as reported in post #894 of this thread, yesterday.

Thank you, I'll take a look.

 

[221129]

Hmm, didn't it use one of the newly extended platforms at Waverley? Possibly no. 5?

Yes it went in on 5

 

[221129]

Wasn't it on diesel only though IIRC?

No. As I said, it was pan up and on Electric.

 

[DanNCL]

No. As I said, it was pan up and on Electric.

Probably on diesel until Berwick then electric north from there, iirc the problems with 800s using OHLE were only between Colton Junction and Berwick.

 

[TheAlbanach_]

Don't know if already been said, but the seat selector for the Azuma is up. Just tried to book the 1345 from Leeds and it came up.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Don't know if already been said, but the seat selector for the Azuma is up. Just tried to book the 1345 from Leeds and it came up.

I do like a good seat selector, but why don't they show the window positions on them? That's the main reason I want to select on a unit like the 800 where all seats have adequate legroom.

 

[Scotrail88]

Not exactly correct thread so apologies in advance

I presume the staff at Leeds and Kings Cross will be happy as turnarounds should be easier with no seat reservations required to be applied.
I do hope they don’t get rid of staff though!
Is this usually done by station or on train staff?

 

[Sirgerbil]

Not exactly correct thread so apologies in advance

I presume the staff at Leeds and Kings Cross will be happy as turnarounds should be easier with no seat reservations required to be applied.
I do hope they don’t get rid of staff though!
Is this usually done by station or on train staff?

It's done by station staff at KGX.

 

[Class455]

Don't know if already been said, but the seat selector for the Azuma is up. Just tried to book the 1345 from Leeds and it came up.

Where are coaches D, E and F?

 

[TheAlbanach_]

Where are coaches D, E and F?

On the 5 car sets.

 

[Class455]

On the 5 car sets.

So on the 9 car Azumas there is definitely no Coach D, E or F? Why's that?

 

[ainsworth74]

So on the 9 car Azumas there is definitely no Coach D, E or F? Why's that?

To help avoid confusion. D and E on a five car are first class or composite so having all standard class D and E on a nine car would be confusing. Particularly in the event of a set swap from nine car to ten car. A nine car you'll have:

A B C G H J K L M (with KLM being 1st class/composite)

On a ten car you'll have:

A B C D E F G H K M (with D E K M being 1st class composite)

So ABCH overlap, F on the ten car covers for J on the nine and then first class has K and M along with part of D and E.

At least that's my guess. Have a look at the attached seat maps and see for yourself but it makes some sense to me!

 

[jymiee]

The training run train that operated Monday and Tuesday was on diesel mode when it called at BWK. Not sure what power it was using for the rest of it's journey. Also NWR have completed the relevant signalling/infrastructure mods to resolve the interference issues and they are being tested at present.

 

[800001]

Don't know if already been said, but the seat selector for the Azuma is up. Just tried to book the 1345 from Leeds and it came up.

What day was that for that you were looking at? TIA

 

[modernrail]

I do like a good seat selector, but why don't they show the window positions on them? That's the main reason I want to select on a unit like the 800 where all seats have adequate legroom.

Agreed!! They need to update the diagram.

 

[EverAnOptimist]

What day was that for that you were looking at? TIA

Curious about this also, I've had no luck so far booking seats for 15th May. No AP tickets available and can't make seat reservations either it seems.