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Any ideas as to when they will enter service? I'm aware of the current issues.
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uxm
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GWR replaced the moquette in July LNER may do the same.
From what I've heard no date has been made available to LNER staff. Presumably Hitachi know and senior management within LNER but otherwise they're playing their cards close to their chest by all accounts.
The seats in the East Coast fleet were always going to be exactly the same type as the GW trains also ordered by the DfT through the IEP programme, just with red covers, courtesy of Virgin's love affair with all things red...
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Here is the first class interior mock up.
I seem to remember that too, the seats were brown in FC?
Aye there were two; one of them was a non-leather material mock-up seat for an advert, and the other was a render of a similar style but with leather trims.
Bletchleyite
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That has to be worthy of a caption competition.
The Chronicle ran an article on this today saying that it was major problems with the signalling that was delaying things until early next year. I would add a link but the Chronicle website is so stuffed with advertising crap that it would be like negotiating a minefield.
Department for Transport doesn't know when new 'Azuma' trains will start running on East Coast Main Line
Department for Transport doesn't know when new 'Azuma' trains will start running on East Coast Main Line
The trains are meant to be a massive improvement for passengers and were due to start in December - but they've been delayed
The Department for Transport has admitted it does not know when long-awaited new trains will be running on the East Coast Main Line.
Transport Minister Liz Sugg said: “I am afraid that I am not able to give a definite date.”
She said rail operator London North Eastern Railway (LNER), which runs long-distance services on the East Coast line, “hopes to start introducing the trains early next year”.
But the trains had originally been due to enter service in December this year - and that deadline would be missed, she said.
Passengers have been promised more seats, increased legroom, additional luggage space and faster Wi-Fi once Azuma trains, built by Hitachi, are introduced.
But it’s emerged that the vehicles are incompatible with outdated equipment besides the track. They cause interference to older signals and points which are in use north of York.
And Baroness Sugg admitted that there was no set date for their introduction, when she was questioned in the House of Lords.
Asked to “put a date on when the trains will actually run the full route to London”, she replied: “I am afraid that I am not able to give a definite date. We are trying to introduce the trains as soon as possible, but there remain issues that we need to work through.
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Department for Transport doesn't know when new 'Azuma' trains will start running on East Coast Main Line
Department for Transport doesn't know when new 'Azuma' trains will start running on East Coast Main Line
The trains are meant to be a massive improvement for passengers and were due to start in December - but they've been delayed
The Department for Transport has admitted it does not know when long-awaited new trains will be running on the East Coast Main Line.
Transport Minister Liz Sugg said: “I am afraid that I am not able to give a definite date.”
She said rail operator London North Eastern Railway (LNER), which runs long-distance services on the East Coast line, “hopes to start introducing the trains early next year”.
But the trains had originally been due to enter service in December this year - and that deadline would be missed, she said.
Passengers have been promised more seats, increased legroom, additional luggage space and faster Wi-Fi once Azuma trains, built by Hitachi, are introduced.
But it’s emerged that the vehicles are incompatible with outdated equipment besides the track. They cause interference to older signals and points which are in use north of York.
And Baroness Sugg admitted that there was no set date for their introduction, when she was questioned in the House of Lords.
Asked to “put a date on when the trains will actually run the full route to London”, she replied: “I am afraid that I am not able to give a definite date. We are trying to introduce the trains as soon as possible, but there remain issues that we need to work through.
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This is what it looked like today at Leeds, having run the empty slot vacated when a diagram was pulled a while ago. Roughly on the 15:03 KX to Leeds, and subsequent 17:15 (left 2 early) south again.
801 101 on 5Q33 mostly early until Wakefield and 8 late at Leeds. Went on to Donny as 5Q34.
It had these signs in each carriage, amended for each.
801 101 on 5Q33 mostly early until Wakefield and 8 late at Leeds. Went on to Donny as 5Q34.
It had these signs in each carriage, amended for each.
uxm
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All IETs will arrive with stock Hitachi seats. The plans are to rip them off and replace them with the seats which were already ordered by virgin. GWR did the same.
I love the 3th shipment. Makes you wonder what the cab computer will default to when it has a melt down!
cactustwirly
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GWR didn't do anything to the seats, they still use the same seats complete with original fabric.
59CosG95
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The unit's still got half the vinyls to be applied...
Credit to @JedKendray on Twitter
Seems like this one doesn't have AZUMA plastered everywhere?
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What's the thing sticking out of the front? Aerial or air speed sensor?
Credit to @JedKendray on Twitter
Seems like this one doesn't have AZUMA plastered everywhere?
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That lever belongs to the coupling system.
Interesting and thanks. The one on display outside The Discovery Museum in Newcastle doesn't have it and other photos show it either bent to one side or down.
It's the guiding horn of the coupler. It's fixed and is not a lever.
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Those seats look comfortable....
Bletchleyite
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Same rubbish, different TOC.
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The (lowest) common denominator being DfT, of course.
It will be very interesting to see what seats are fitted in the Hull Trains 802s - WorstGroup can't bleat about DfT interference on those.
Bletchleyite
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I'm expecting the same, just as the same awful seats are being fitted in all the new TPE stock, which is similarly not specified by the DfT.
FWIW, I used a GWR unit for a couple of hours each way this weekend. On both occasions I could feel the metal cross-support through the seat base. This is not fit for purpose, and has nothing to do with fire regulations because the presence of a metal base across the seat would prevent this, and last time I checked metal does not burn.
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