LNER Class 91/Mk4 service status/withdrawals/2021 refurbishment

[JaJaWa]

I demand a full GNER livery with the gold letter LNER instead of GNER and the emblem on the coaches saying 'London North Western Railway' instead of 'Great North Eastern Railway' before their retirement.

Arriva were going to bring back the GNER name and livery on open access services:

Alliance Rail Holdings - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Prestige15]

Abit like this for example, Unable to do it to the IC225 but ohwell

 

[Class360/1]

Abit like this for example, Unable to do it to the IC225 but ohwellView attachment 116193

That Looks quite good in gner

 

[43102EMR]

Abit like this for example, Unable to do it to the IC225 but ohwellView attachment 116193

Have to admit it suits the Azuma well - then again the GNER livery is one of those liveries that’s good for polishing rubbish…

 

[class397tpe]

Abit like this for example, Unable to do it to the IC225 but ohwellView attachment 116193

Looks really great! What program did you use to edit that by the way?

 

[gabrielhj07]

Abit like this for example, Unable to do it to the IC225 but ohwellView attachment 116193

Looks very smart

 

[destere]

I made this quick mockup sometime last year. Always thought silver/pewter doors ala GWR would have suited better than red - certainly makes it feel a little more modern. (I appreciate we are veering off-topic!)

 

[ChilternTurbo]

I had a colleague refer to GNER the other day in relation to travelling from London to Leeds. My other also referred to the 'GNER train' when travelling to York recently.

They obviously meant LNER but it's interesting how the GNER brand has stuck in some non rail enthusiasts minds. I always thought it was a classy era for the ECML.

Back on topic, I personally really like the new livery on the 91's and Mk.4s but then I always hated the VTEC colours whose vinyls looked flat and dull from day one. At least the interior refurbishment of the same time was very good.

 

[Mogz]

I had a colleague refer to GNER the other day in relation to travelling from London to Leeds. My other also referred to the 'GNER train' when travelling to York recently.

They obviously meant LNER but it's interesting how the GNER brand has stuck in some non rail enthusiasts minds. I always thought it was a classy era for the ECML.

A restaurant car on every train.. ah! Those were the days!

 

[rdlover777]

Abit like this for example, Unable to do it to the IC225 but ohwellView attachment 116193

didn't think i'd see my wikipedia diagram here of all places

They obviously meant LNER but it's interesting how the GNER brand has stuck in some non rail enthusiasts minds. I always thought it was a classy era for the ECML.

the GNER livery always holds a place in my heart especially on the 373s

 

[Prestige15]

Looks really great! What program did you use to edit that by the way?

Just paint, Took me about 35 minutes to make a almost perfect one

 

[destere]

I do wonder whether striped vinyl would have been a better move. Both to add to brand cohesion across the fleet and be more of a bridge between past and present. I've mocked it up here but can't make my mind up...

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I do wonder whether striped vinyl would have been a better move. Both to add to brand cohesion across the fleet and be more of a bridge between past and present. I've mocked it up here but can't make my mind up...View attachment 116323

So much better. Makes it look like their own livery rather than a rushed application of their logo to BR.

 

[Class360/1]

I do wonder whether striped vinyl would have been a better move. Both to add to brand cohesion across the fleet and be more of a bridge between past and present. I've mocked it up here but can't make my mind up...View attachment 116323

Looks more like their own. Tbh they should have gone with the stripey windows as it gives it a modern twist.

 

[yorksrob]

I do wonder whether striped vinyl would have been a better move. Both to add to brand cohesion across the fleet and be more of a bridge between past and present. I've mocked it up here but can't make my mind up...View attachment 116323

Looks more like their own. Tbh they should have gone with the vinyls as it gives it a modern twist.

They haven't had a proper repaint since NX days. They need one.

 

[43102EMR]

Looks more like their own. Tbh they should have gone with the vinyls as it gives it a modern twist.

Was part of their maintenance to receive a repaint, especially as they haven’t been repainted since the East Coast days, so over 10 years ago now. The paint work was starting to get relatively worn and tired too!

 

[Skimble19]

I do wonder whether striped vinyl would have been a better move. Both to add to brand cohesion across the fleet and be more of a bridge between past and present. I've mocked it up here but can't make my mind up...View attachment 116323

That looks much better! Still in the Intercity design for the heritage nod, but far more on brand and consistent with the Azumas.

 

[sprinterguy]

I made this quick mockup sometime last year. Always thought silver/pewter doors ala GWR would have suited better than red - certainly makes it feel a little more modern. (I appreciate we are veering off-topic!)View attachment 116207

Excellent work, I like that a lot. I've also always felt that pewter coloured doors would have been preferable to red on the GNER livery. Reminiscent of GNER's Pendolino proposal (Which was of course pre-red doors):

I do wonder whether striped vinyl would have been a better move. Both to add to brand cohesion across the fleet and be more of a bridge between past and present. I've mocked it up here but can't make my mind up...View attachment 116323

Yes, I do prefer that, despite my fondness for the IC Swallow-derived livery as has been unveiled. In fact, despite my general antipathy towards vinyl livery components, part of me had assumed that there would be a final vinyl application over the Oxblood window band much like that generated here.

Nice to see that they've disguised the additional bodyside grille behind the cab door that's been added since their Intercity days - Being picked out in black on 91119, it sticks out like a sore thumb

 

[Class360/1]

Was part of their maintenance to receive a repaint, especially as they haven’t been repainted since the East Coast days, so over 10 years ago now. The paint work was starting to get relatively worn and tired too!

Sorry, I should have clarified. I meant the stripes.

 

[43102EMR]

Sorry, I should have clarified. I meant the stripes.

Ah fair enough - then again, guess it makes it less difficult for them to fade/peel compared to vinyl, so maybe that’s what they were going for?

 

[Bletchleyite]

Sorry, I should have clarified. I meant the stripes.

I think that version with the Azuma stripes looks amazing. Indeed I'd expected them to go all "Pretendolino" and paint them up as fake Azumas!

 

[Prestige15]

I think that version with the Azuma stripes looks amazing. Indeed I'd expected them to go all "Pretendolino" and paint them up as fake Azumas!

Fakezumas

 

[py_megapixel]

Fakezumas

I don't think "Pretendozuma" sounds too bad if I'm honest.

 

[Domh245]

Assumer, surely

 

[dazzler]

Fakezumas

Faux-zuma?

 

[Doomotron]

Assumer, surely

Clever!

 

[Prestige15]

I don't think "Pretendozuma" sounds too bad if I'm honest.

That, Azuma 225, Azumawannabe or Enjiru Azuma (Enjiru is a Japanese word for pretend)

 

[Suraggu]

I demand a full GNER livery with the gold letter LNER instead of GNER and the emblem on the coaches saying 'London North Western Railway' instead of 'Great North Eastern Railway' before their retirement.

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Can't see that happening... can you.

 

[XAM2175]

Is it not the case that the Azuma window bands are vinyls? I agree they really bring it up a notch, but I can also understand them not wanting to spring for the extra cost if they're having to repaint everything anyway.

 

[DanNCL]

Is it not the case that the Azuma window bands are vinyls? I agree they really bring it up a notch, but I can also understand them not wanting to spring for the extra cost if they're having to repaint everything anyway.

Yes. The ‘livery’ on the Azumas as painted is DFT plain white.