LNER Class 91/Mk4 service status/withdrawals/2021 refurbishment

[800001]

Short answer, because BR! It must've been late early 90s. It was a 47 on the front iirc.

I’d love to know when, as I can not recall any Mk4s working in passenger service on the Midland Mainline ever!

 

[Davester50]

Short answer, because BR! It must've been late early 90s. It was a 47 on the front iirc.

Amazing. Remember the West Coast diversions complete with 87s and 90s in the early 1990s, but never a East Coast electric diversion.

 

[800001]

Amazing. Remember the West Coast diversions complete with 87s and 90s in the early 1990s, but never a East Coast electric diversion.

That’s is probably what ‘43302’ is referring to. Wcml stick with dvt

Short answer, because BR! It must've been late early 90s. It was a 47 on the front iirc.

Interesting piece her about Mk4s not been route cleared

Mk 4s on the Midland

The Midland Main Line rolling stock conundrum won’t be solved with cascaded Mark 4 coaches

garethdennis.medium.com

 

[43 302]

That’s is probably what ‘43302’ is referring to. Wcml stick with dvt


Interesting piece her about Mk4s not been route cleared

Mk 4s on the Midland

The Midland Main Line rolling stock conundrum won’t be solved with cascaded Mark 4 coaches

garethdennis.medium.com

I can assure you I am on about a Mk4 set on the MML I'll see if I can dig out a photo.

 

[Pit_buzzer]

I can assure you I am on about a Mk4 set on the MML I'll see if I can dig out a photo.

I remember this one, I think at was an East Coast Leeds to London service that got very diverted, industrial action springs to mind. I think it was 47 402 that hauled it

 

[xotGD]

I remember this one, I think at was an East Coast Leeds to London service that got very diverted, industrial action springs to mind. I think it was 47 402 that hauled it

Those Gateshead Generators got everywhere!

 

[DanNCL]

As things currently stand 91127+NL17 are expected to re enter service on Wednesday morning working 1A09 0715 Leeds - Kings Cross. Subject to the usual disclaimers.

 

[TrainTrackJack]

As things currently stand 91127+NL17 are expected to re enter service on Wednesday morning working 1A09 0715 Leeds - Kings Cross. Subject to the usual disclaimers.

225 group tweeting the following services, beggining with that service :
1A09 0715 Leeds - King's Cross
1D09 1003 King's Cross - Leeds
1A30 1245 Leeds - King's Cross
1D21 1603 King's Cross - Leeds
1A48 1845 Leeds - King's Cross
1D33 2133 King's Cross - Leeds

 

[800001]

225 group tweeting the following services, beggining with that service :
1A09 0715 Leeds - King's Cross
1D09 1003 King's Cross - Leeds
1A30 1245 Leeds - King's Cross
1D21 1603 King's Cross - Leeds
1A48 1845 Leeds - King's Cross
1D33 2133 King's Cross - Leeds

Once it arrives at Leeds on 1D09 this will then go ecs to Neville Hill due to a fault on dvt.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Once it arrives at Leeds on 1D09 this will then go ecs to Neville Hill due to a fault on dvt.

The diagram will now be covered by 801207.

 

[ST156]

Looking at the most recent Fleet List update from the 225 group, only two Mk4 vehicles are now reported as being stored at Worksop - DVTs 82210 & 82218.

Others in store until recently now scrapped or at Doncaster Wabtec.

 

[Ianigsy]

Once it arrives at Leeds on 1D09 this will then go ecs to Neville Hill due to a fault on dvt.

Funnily enough I saw this as I was walking down Briggate in my lunch hour - couldn’t quite work out what it was until I saw the DVT.

 

[47444]

Looking at the most recent Fleet List update from the 225 group, only two Mk4 vehicles are now reported as being stored at Worksop - DVTs 82210 & 82218.

Others in store until recently now scrapped or at Doncaster Wabtec.

My last listing has the following at Worksop:
10307, 11316, 12229, 12308, 12410, 12526, 82204, 82206, 82210 and 82218
Have any of these (apart from 82210 & 82218) moved to Doncaster or have they all gone for scrap?
If the latter, is it known where they were cut up?

TIA

 

[ricj]

Final thoughts on the design: I think they should put the LNER logo at the ends of each coach just to complete the Intercity look.

 

[43096]

My last listing has the following at Worksop:
10307, 11316, 12229, 12308, 12410, 12526, 82204, 82206, 82210 and 82218
Have any of these (apart from 82210 & 82218) moved to Doncaster or have they all gone for scrap?
If the latter, is it known where they were cut up?

TIA

10307, 11316, 12229, 12308, 12526, 82204, 82206 - all sold to TfW; reported moved from Worksop (to Doncaster?)
12410 - sent to Booth's for disposal in May.

 

[Defiance149]

10307, 11316, 12229, 12308, 12526, 82204, 82206 - all sold to TfW; reported moved from Worksop (to Doncaster?)

All to Doncaster, 12229, 10307, 12526, 12308, 11316, 82204 by rail on 20/6, 82206 by road last week.

 

[Deepgreen]

See here from today: http://www.railway-centre.com/

 

[AlistairCowell]

Another question, what year the Class 91 were fitted with pantograph lights (which I believe they have overhead camera)?

 

[DanNCL]

Another question, what year the Class 91 were fitted with pantograph lights (which I believe they have overhead camera)?

Within the last year. If I recall correctly they haven’t all been fitted yet.

 

[Ewan M]

Sims Metals seem to be unusually taking their time as pics have emerged on Fb showing 91122 + 91128 still awaiting their doom at the Newport site

 

[TrainTrackJack]

Sims Metals seem to be unusually taking their time as pics have emerged on Fb showing 91122 + 91128 still awaiting their doom at the Newport site

Perhaps a request by Eversholt to strip them to provide parts for the LNER fleet, which I suppose is cheaper than ordering in new spares providing they arent already knackered. I also believe they use a traditional gas axe on them compared to the excavators as its a bit much for them to handle.

 

[Ewan M]

Perhaps a request by Eversholt to strip them to provide parts for the LNER fleet, which I suppose is cheaper than ordering in new spares providing they arent already knackered. I also believe they use a traditional gas axe on them compared to the excavators as its a bit much for them to handle.

Think an excavator with a grab handle was used to rip apart 91132 at Sims Metals Beeston last year, however the ones that went to Booths a few months ago will have definitely been gas axed

 

[47444]

10307, 11316, 12229, 12308, 12526, 82204, 82206 - all sold to TfW; reported moved from Worksop (to Doncaster?)
12410 - sent to Booth's for disposal in May.

All to Doncaster, 12229, 10307, 12526, 12308, 11316, 82204 by rail on 20/6, 82206 by road last week.

Many thanks

 

[Ewan M]

Further pics of Sims Newport have emerged on Fb and 91122 is unbelievably still intact. However 91128 has now been dismantled as there can be seen some 91 remnants

 

[D7672]

I visited 29th july and the remains of 91128 were been removed with a grab and loaded into a large bucket machine to the scrap pile.
Yesterday I was informed that 91122 will be having the gas axe today Thursday 4th July and be gone by Friday ready for the 321901 and 322481.

 

[NoOnesFool]

I much prefer the MK4 to the Azuma. The onboard ambience in the cabin is largely similar but I find the seats on an MK4 to be more comfortable. The First Class head cushion digs in to my shoulders on an Azuma and I find they lack the padding compared to the padding on an MK4. I try to reserve seats for the MK4 when I make bookings but despite the website saying it is an Intercity 225 service, twice now an Azuma has turned up instead!

I do also like the swallow livery which has been applied to an MK4 rake, I think it looks far smarter than the tacky Virgin livery. I wonder if the former smoking compartment dividers will be retained in the refurbishment.

 

[Fuzzytop]

I do also like the swallow livery which has been applied to an MK4 rake, I think it looks far smarter than the tacky Virgin livery. I wonder if the former smoking compartment dividers will be retained in the refurbishment.

I liked the VTEC livery but the new one is truly exceptional. However I don't believe there is any internal refurbishment planned for the LNER sets, so the smoking compartment dividers are still there - and indeed set NL16 has one in its Coach K, too, as it was formerly Coach M in BN18.

 

[HarryF]

I liked the VTEC livery but the new one is truly exceptional. However I don't believe there is any internal refurbishment planned for the LNER sets, so the smoking compartment dividers are still there - and indeed set NL16 has one in its Coach K, too, as it was formerly Coach M in BN18.

Does NL16’s coach K not have the crew rest area then?

 

[Fuzzytop]

Does NL16’s coach K not have the crew rest area then?

I'm told it does not, but I haven't been on it yet so happy to be proved wrong!

 

[Dampfmann]

91 105 now in the new LNER livery. Southbound through Wakefield on 1A26 1115 Leeds - KX. The rest of the train
in old/normal livery.