LNER curiosity (Advance London to Shipley and Saltaire, Saturday 14 Aug)

[30907]

I know Advance fares sometimes seem arbitrary, but can anyone work out the rationale of these?
KGX-SHY, 0833 £29.00
KGX-SAE, 0833 £72.50
Just to make clear, the two stations are on the same route out of Leeds and about 3/4 mile apart.
Answers on the proverbial postcard, anyone?

(BTW: the two previous trains are £72.50 to both places.)

 

[Bletchleyite]

Seems a bit odd, but Advances aren't purely about capacity, but rather about getting the highest feasible price for each ticket.

 

[Fawkes Cat]

I know Advance fares sometimes seem arbitrary, but can anyone work out the rationale of these?
KGX-SHY, 0833 £29.00
KGX-SAE, 0833 £72.50
Just to make clear, the two stations are on the same route out of Leeds and about 3/4 mile apart.
Answers on the proverbial postcard, anyone?

(BTW: the two previous trains are £72.50 to both places.)

Presumably (a) LNER has made a certain number of Advance tickets available at each price point to both Shipley and Saltaire, and (b) a lot of people want to go to Saltaire on that train so have bought all the lower-priced Advance tickets: not many people want to go to Shipley, so the cheaper tickets are still available

 

[alistairlees]

I know Advance fares sometimes seem arbitrary, but can anyone work out the rationale of these?
KGX-SHY, 0833 £29.00
KGX-SAE, 0833 £72.50
Just to make clear, the two stations are on the same route out of Leeds and about 3/4 mile apart.
Answers on the proverbial postcard, anyone?

(BTW: the two previous trains are £72.50 to both places.)

Less than half a mile apart, I think.

Is it just one left at the lower price?

 

[30907]

Less than half a mile apart, I think.

Is it just one left at the lower price?

Doesn't say so!

Presumably (a) LNER has made a certain number of Advance tickets available at each price point to both Shipley and Saltaire, and (b) a lot of people want to go to Saltaire on that train so have bought all the lower-priced Advance tickets: not many people want to go to Shipley, so the cheaper tickets are still available

A logical explanation - it never occurred to me that LNER priced individual "connections" stations!

 

[alistairlees]

Doesn't say so!

A logical explanation - it never occurred to me that LNER priced individual "connections" stations!

I didn’t think they do.

 

[Haywain]

I don't know, but I would guess it's because LNER trains serve Shipley (SHY) but not Saltaire (SAE).

 

[island]

One consideration will be that the Saltaire ticket will require a connection onto (I presume) Northern who will want their slice of the pie and may not have made quota available for the cheaper Advances on their trains.

One could, of course, split tickets.

 

[skyhigh]

One consideration will be that the Saltaire ticket will require a connection onto (I presume) Northern who will want their slice of the pie and may not have made quota available for the cheaper Advances on their trains.

One could, of course, split tickets.

The 0833 quoted doesn't go to either though. Wonder if Northern availability has an impact on it when they're connections on an advance?

 

[paul1609]

Doesnt surprise me, LNER plus connections tickets across London sre always priced as that its much cheaper to split in London 99% of the time.

 

[30907]

I don't know, but I would guess it's because LNER trains serve Shipley (SHY) but not Saltaire (SAE).

SHY level fares seem to be available at Guiseley.

One consideration will be that the Saltaire ticket will require a connection onto (I presume) Northern who will want their slice of the pie and may not have made quota available for the cheaper Advances on their trains.

Skyhigh: The 0833 quoted doesn't go to either though. Wonder if Northern availability has an impact on it when they're connections on an advance?

It does with reservable services, but these aren't (though Northern have Advances presumably with CPR)

Doesnt surprise me, LNER plus connections tickets across London sre always priced as that its much cheaper to split in London 99% of the time.

Yes, I know only too well, but that applies across the board not to random trains.

 

[Haywain]

SHY level fares seem to be available at Guiseley.

In which case I revert to the first part of my answer!

Yes, I know only too well, but that applies across the board not to random trains.

Across all TOCs as well?