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Has anyone got any information about the future of the repainted BR Intercity set? Is this likely to be transferred to EMR?
I can’t imagine that it would be shunted away somewhere, given the cost and resources of repainting. Wouldn’t it be great to see it running in service for a year or two more?
PS - what a stunning job they’ve made of it!
I can’t imagine that it would be shunted away somewhere, given the cost and resources of repainting. Wouldn’t it be great to see it running in service for a year or two more?
PS - what a stunning job they’ve made of it!
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It is not going to EMR. Next move likely to be to Ely for store.
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Carries 254029 at the other end, which is correct for 43312.
CTS1990
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Very sorry to hear that, what a shame. An uncertain future awaits then...
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Don’t think it’s going to Ely according to the staff today... they mentioned EMR?
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The set on the tour is not planned to go to EMR.
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That makes sense. Without some changes to the paint job, I don't think it could go to EMR. Safety regulations now require the doors to be a distinct colour from the rest of the bodyside for regular service carriages, do they not? The retro livery doesn't meet that requirement.
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Correct. That is a very good first reason for it to not go to EMR. Second, it has a prototype trailer in the set. Why take one if you don't have to? Third, if it was going, they'd have painted a full 8-car set, not a 7-car.
CTS1990
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The cutter’s torch awaits, by the sounds of things...
Stathern Jc
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It does seem a pity that it won't be migrating somewhere.
I know this could be controversial. But, would it be the end of the world if (after the celebration tours have been done), the doors were to be painted the same grey as the bodyside stripe to allow continued use? That would be a subtle change, but would it be sufficiently distinct??
Also, I may well have missed something in connection with references to transfers to EMR. Do they not yet need to fit retention tanks and power operated doors? Or are they transfers of stock for refurbishment?? Clarification / pointers to posts elsewhere would be appreciated. Thanks
I know this could be controversial. But, would it be the end of the world if (after the celebration tours have been done), the doors were to be painted the same grey as the bodyside stripe to allow continued use? That would be a subtle change, but would it be sufficiently distinct??
Also, I may well have missed something in connection with references to transfers to EMR. Do they not yet need to fit retention tanks and power operated doors? Or are they transfers of stock for refurbishment?? Clarification / pointers to posts elsewhere would be appreciated. Thanks
greatvoyager
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Difference being that pacers were a cheap exercise using bus parts, whilst HSTs are proper trains and had lots of effort put in.But Pacers were envisaged as a temporary solution, yet became the backbone of Regional trains in the capital city of Wales and also in most of Northern England
Not necessarily. From Richard Clinnick's twitter - LSL being Locomotive Services Leasing, who operate heritage tour
Retention tanks I'm not sure about, but power doors is a definite no. Whilst the LNER stock isn't PRM-TSI compliant, it's slightly more compliant than the EMR stock, although there isn't any plan to make them fully compliant that I'm aware of
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Thanks. I'm more familiar with the ScotRail refurbishments and what a protracted situation that is, so was curious as to what EMR would be using.Not necessarily. From Richard Clinnick's twitter - LSL being Locomotive Services Leasing, who operate heritage tour
Retention tanks I'm not sure about, but power doors is a definite no. Whilst the LNER stock isn't PRM-TSI compliant, it's slightly more compliant than the EMR stock, although there isn't any plan to make them fully compliant that I'm aware of
Not necessarily. From Richard Clinnick's twitter - LSL being Locomotive Services Leasing, who operate heritage tour
Retention tanks I'm not sure about, but power doors is a definite no. Whilst the LNER stock isn't PRM-TSI compliant, it's slightly more compliant than the EMR stock, although there isn't any plan to make them fully compliant that I'm aware of
There are no plans to fit retention tanks to the sets transferring to EMR.
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How many sets go to EMR and when will they be in service?
hexagon789
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Nine 2+8 sets
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Nine 2+8 sets I believe.
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I had the current length of LNER sets stuck in my head, edited post
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I noticed this working on RTT yesterday and was assuming it was something new heading this way. I headed to Newcraighall and saw it pass through (although with a long signal wait at which the driver dismounted and took a photo). I thought that watching the Farewell tour head off would be my last experience of LNER HSTs but, actually, this was ... and it was a new experience since I haven't seen an HST set pass through before although I'm sure they have (I have seen power cars runs into Newcraighall for turning purposes).
If anyone know the headcode it was running under, I'd be much obliged.
5S04, 08.06 Ferme Park Reception - Craigentinny T&RSMD
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For anyone on the "Highland Chieftain" Leg of the LNER Farewell Tour this afternoon, here you are passing Cradlehall earlier.
Seemed so strange to think that this is it after so many years. Hearing the HST "Chieftain" heading up the hill just before 0800 was always a useful timecheck.
Seemed so strange to think that this is it after so many years. Hearing the HST "Chieftain" heading up the hill just before 0800 was always a useful timecheck.
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Forgive my ignorance, its quite hard to work this out. Have they just repainted an entire set to send it to the scrap yard? If yes that is totally insane!
Speed43125
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As if we on this forum here care, I just saw it and it looks amazing.
Hopefully something will be salvaged. LSL are talking of buying one set, but it's not confirmed which vehicles that would be.
That said, it's not unreasonable to assume at least some of the vehicles in the rake will be scrapped yes.
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Any sensible organisation wouldn't touch at least two vehicles in that set if they had a choice: the prototype TF and 43206.
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The prototype TF I can understand. Why not 43206?
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There appears to be another Craigentinny to Gascoigne Wood move today, https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K05894/2019-12-19/detailed
Anyone know the consist please?
Anyone know the consist please?
DarloRich
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Lsl surely can have the pick of the litter. Why limit themselves to one nicely painted set when there might be better vehicles elsewhere?
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Only ID I've seen has been 43272 as leading with seven trailers and ANOther power car.
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