LNER HST Withdrawals

[theblackwatch]

Only ID I've seen has been 43272 as leading with seven trailers and ANOther power car.

43277 on rear, no idea about the stock yet...

 

[gaillark]

Correct. That is a very good first reason for it to not go to EMR. Second, it has a prototype trailer in the set. Why take one if you don't have to? Third, if it was going, they'd have painted a full 8-car set, not a 7-car.

I think it will be snapped up by a charter operator. Makes perfect marketing sense to have it in original livery.

 

[Murray J]

I hope so. it would be a shame to scrap an already painted set, particularly one with a prototype trailer

 

[43096]

I hope so. it would be a shame to scrap an already painted set, particularly one with a prototype trailer

Paint paint paint paint paint paint paint.

All people ever look at. There's far more important stuff to look at when choosing vehicles. Anyone who takes a prototype trailer when others are available needs their head testing, frankly.

 

[BR 45111]

Paint paint paint paint paint paint paint.


All people ever look at. There's far more important stuff to look at when choosing vehicles. Anyone who takes a prototype trailer when others are available needs their head testing, frankly.

Given the fact that it will be hardly be overworked doing charters , will the fact that a prototype involved be such an issue ?

 

[Dave91131]

The prototype TF I can understand. Why not 43206?

Others in the know may be able to elaborate or correct - but possibly because (if memory serves me correctly) it required a fairly extensive re-build of the nose end / cab area prior to entering service with (I think) GNER.

 

[43096]

Others in the know may be able to elaborate or correct - but possibly because (if memory serves me correctly) it required a fairly extensive re-build of the nose end / cab area prior to entering service with (I think) GNER.

Indeed.

 

[ST156]

43277 on rear, no idea about the stock yet...

Additionally, does anyone know the consist of the set which transferred on Monday?

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K05859/2019-12-16/detailed

 

[Dave91131]

Additionally, does anyone know the consist of the set which transferred on Monday?

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K05859/2019-12-16/detailed

I believe Monday's transfer was 43314 + 319 with set EC57.

By a process of elimination, I would suspect today's stock with 43272 + 277 was 7 vehicles from set EC53 with the remaining 2 being left behind at Craigentinny.

According to my notes and again by a process of elimination (corrections welcome) I think all but 3 EMR-bound sets are now at Gascoigne Wood - these being EC51 (finished at Neville Hill with 43238 + 316), EC59 (finished at Neville Hill with 43257 + 318) and EC61 (finished at Heaton with 43307 + 43308).

Whether the power cars which last worked with these sets transfer with them or whether swaps take place remain to be seen.


In terms of power cars (again corrections welcomed) I have the present situation as follows:

Gascoigne Wood, for EMR: 251, 272, 274, 277, 295, 299, 302, 305, 306, 310, 314, 319
Ely, for EMR: 296, 309
Elsewhere, for EMR: 238, 257, 290, 320

Not for EMR (various locations): 206, 208, 239, 300, 311, 312, 313, 315, 367

Unknown (various locations): 307, 308, 316, 317, 318

Knowing 9 sets are transferring to EMR, I'd estimate approximately 22 power cars. Assuming I have all the 'for EMR' power cars correct, if all of the 5 'unknowns' head there too that would be 24.

We await further developments....

 

[SteveP29]

Saw the repainted set at Waverley yesterday.
I remained remarkably calm although it was the last time I'd regularly see an HST (apart from looking at the stationary Scotrail ones at Haymarket when I pass on the bus each day to work)

 

[Deepgreen]

Paint paint paint paint paint paint paint.

All people ever look at. There's far more important stuff to look at when choosing vehicles. Anyone who takes a prototype trailer when others are available needs their head testing, frankly.

If a set is to be used for mainly enthusiast charters, then livery and vehicles' pedigree do matter a lot. The set would be likely to attract far more attention and custom if presented as a heritage one. The HST has such a place in the non-enthusiast mind-set, that the original livery, etc., will carry some sway there too.

 

[ainsworth74]

As with all good things or at long last (depending on your point of view) the LNER HSTs have left public service. This thread is therefore closed. We do have a thread regarding the Railtour which is still ongoing. Any other matters (such as the transfer to EMR) are either the subject of an existing thread or suitable for a new one.

All change please all change.