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I do like this use of the term "withdrawn". They are not withdrawn yet - that has a specific meaning on the national vehicle register. EC64 has been stopped by LNER in preparation for handback - it isn't off lease yet.
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Including 43206 & 43316 which were reported on that set yesterday?
cactustwirly
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No just the coaches.
cactustwirly
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It is withdrawn from passenger service though...
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Only with LNER. In theory Porterbrook could re-lease it elsewhere.
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Is 43310 going to EMR?
cactustwirly
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The list of powercars going to EMR hasn't been revealed
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Tweeted by Tim Dunn this afternoon, HST Farewell Tour for Charity 18th - 21st December with coaches and power cars (one of which will be 43302 - World Speed Record) in British Rail Livery.
Really hope I will be able to obtain a ticket for the 20th Dec journey! Will be really great to see a full set in BR livery! Good variety of trips too (although potentially slightly surprising that there is not one from London (eg London - Edinburgh).
Really hope I will be able to obtain a ticket for the 20th Dec journey! Will be really great to see a full set in BR livery! Good variety of trips too (although potentially slightly surprising that there is not one from London (eg London - Edinburgh).
Just to note that there is a dedicated thread which can be found here. Let's continue the conversation about this exciting railtour over there 
sprinterguy
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In sadder news, according to Richard Clinnick on twitter, the movement of LNER HST sets for scrapping starts tomorrow: NL65 to go to South Wales tomorrow, EC64 next week:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Clinnick1/status/1197173390861320192
Both Porterbrook sets, doesn't impact on the three Porterbrook sets reputedly earmarked for MML service.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Clinnick1/status/1197173390861320192
Both Porterbrook sets, doesn't impact on the three Porterbrook sets reputedly earmarked for MML service.
NoMorePacers
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What will the headcode be for this movement if anybody knows?
reddragon
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According to RAIL they are moving to EMR as follows: -
Portabrook EC61,62,63 + 41190,44077 plus all but 1 class 43 power cars. (was 43299 guess now its 43300!)
Withdrawn = EC64, 42117,42306,42163, 40732,40805
The existing EMR fleet is for scrap - 22 class 43 + 9 sets.
Portabrook EC61,62,63 + 41190,44077 plus all but 1 class 43 power cars. (was 43299 guess now its 43300!)
Withdrawn = EC64, 42117,42306,42163, 40732,40805
The existing EMR fleet is for scrap - 22 class 43 + 9 sets.
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It probably needs clarifying that this is East Midlands Railway, not European Metals Recycling, which has been known as EMR and been cutting up stock for years. (Very clever of a TOC to use the initials of a railway scrap metal dealer!)
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Perhaps Richard Clinnick reads this thread, where it has been discussed since last Friday, when HamworthyGoods posted the same info...
reddragon
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Maybe a set will get a brief reprieve after the loss of a class 800 after its bump with 43300?
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Drat!
Anyway, I'm looking forward to the photos of cutters' torches making short work of some power cars, whichever fleet they come from.
cactustwirly
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I'm very sure you're in the minority there
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Ahem. 43048/089 are not for scrap!
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Does the East Midlands HSTs for scrap include the six former GC power cars and stock?
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Not in the numbers listed above. The three Angel sets go in the Spring when the 180s come on line.
coradiafan2000
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Sorry if this was discussed earlier and I missed it, but does anyone know the fate/ whereabouts of 43272? It's the only LNER powercar I haven't seen.
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In service today on set EC60. Should be one of the power cars moving to EMR.
reddragon
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On the RAIL list
43251,57,72,74,77,90/300,02 - only 43299 was not going before 43300 had a mishap!
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Apologies if I've missed the answer somewhere but is the scrap move going to Sim's Metals at Newport Docks or elsewhere? I see Swansea mentioned as a location but wasn't aware of a scrapping facility there...
coradiafan2000
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Thanks for the info. Hope to see it next time I'm in the area.
coradiafan2000
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I'd also like to know this so I can say my goodbyes. It's such a shame that they're heading straight for scrap. I'm sure plenty of people including myself would love to see them increasing capacity on CrossCountry services.
Merle Haggard
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Now maybe I'm being a bit slow here (happened before...) but I don't understand.
Currently 12 EMR NL HSTs, 3 sets moving from LNER to replace them - how will that work?
The present EMR NL sets have coaches with wheelchair space and disabled toilet but hinged doors and track discharge toilets so presumably being discarded because they don't meet 1. 1. 20 PRM. But the LNER sets are pretty much the same with the exception that some coaches might have CET. So where's the advance?
And what about the DfT sets at EP. These have the same shortcomings as the NL sets, but are staying.
Now I know that not all LNER HSTs are Porterbrook (the EMR sets are Porterbrook, of course) - some are Angel Trains. But there are more Porterbrook LNER sets (I think) that are not shown as moving.
Of course, it may just be that the LNER sets are in better condition than the EMR ones; but the EMR NL ones seem a lot better than the ex GC ones (the latter have disabled toilets routinely locked - air cond. very hot in summer, cold in winter - minor defects)
Currently 12 EMR NL HSTs, 3 sets moving from LNER to replace them - how will that work?
The present EMR NL sets have coaches with wheelchair space and disabled toilet but hinged doors and track discharge toilets so presumably being discarded because they don't meet 1. 1. 20 PRM. But the LNER sets are pretty much the same with the exception that some coaches might have CET. So where's the advance?
And what about the DfT sets at EP. These have the same shortcomings as the NL sets, but are staying.
Now I know that not all LNER HSTs are Porterbrook (the EMR sets are Porterbrook, of course) - some are Angel Trains. But there are more Porterbrook LNER sets (I think) that are not shown as moving.
Of course, it may just be that the LNER sets are in better condition than the EMR ones; but the EMR NL ones seem a lot better than the ex GC ones (the latter have disabled toilets routinely locked - air cond. very hot in summer, cold in winter - minor defects)
How depressing.
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