Locomotive Services Fleet (LSL) Thread

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As the LSL Fleet ever expands, and as various posts are spread across several different threads, I thought it's worth creating this thread to keep track of LSLs mainline diesel and electric fleet, stock movements and repaints etc.

Class 08:
08493 - Ex GWR BR Black livery.
D3905 / 08737 - BR Green
08780 - Blue.

Class 20:
D8096 / 20096 - BR Green. Either purchased or on long term hire from HNRC.
D8107 / 20107 - BR Green. Either purchased or on long term hire from HNRC.

Class 37:
37521 - BR Green
37667 - BR Green
37668 - BR Two Tone Grey / Trainload Construction sector. On hire from D05 Preservation Ltd.

Class 40:
40013 - BR Green. On hire to LSL.

Class 43:
43046 - Currently in EMT, New livery unknown. Purchased from Porterbrook. At Eastleigh.
43055 - Currently in EMT, New livery unknown. Purchased from Porterbrook. At Eastleigh.
43083 - Currently in EMT, New livery unknown. Purchased from Porterbrook. At Eastleigh.


Class 47:
D1944 / 47501 - BR Two Tone Green
47593 (790) - BR Large Logo
47712 - BR ScotRail. On hire from Crewe Diesel Preservation Group
D1935 / 47805 - BR Two Tone Green
D1924 / 47810 - BR Two Tone Green
D1733 / 47853 - BR Monastral Blue

Class 55:
D9000 / 55022 - BR Blue

Class 86:
86101 - Intercity Swallow

Class 87:
87002 - Intercity Swallow

Class 90:
90001 - Intercity Swallow
90002 - Intercity Swallow - Now named "Wolf of Badenoch" (previously carried on 87027).

Class 121:
121034 - BR Green.

Mk1:

MK1 BSK:
35317, 35465, 35451 - Carmine and Cream
35333, 35461 - Chocolate and Cream
99241 - livery unknown.

Mk1 BCK:
21096 - A4 Loco Trust Support Vehicle - Carmine and Cream. Currently in store in Margate.

Mk1 BG:
6311 - Carmine and Cream

MK1 FO:
99993, 3100, 3148, 3125, 3122 - Carmine and Cream

MK1 FK:
13227 - Carmine and Cream

MK1 RK:
80044 - Carmine and Cream

Mk2:

MK2A TSO:
5366 - Carmine and Cream

MK2A BFK
17056, 17080 - Statesman Rail Pullman Livery

MK2D BFK:
17159 - Carmine and Cream

MK2D BSO:
9479 - Statesman Rail Pullman Livery

MK2D TSO:
5991 - Carmine and Cream
3188 - Statesman Rail Pullman Livery

MK2D RFB:
1203 - Carmine and Cream
1211 - Statesman Rail Pullman Livery

MK2E FO:
3231, 3229 - Statesman Rail Pullman Livery

MK2F TSO:
5991 - Carmine and Cream
5912 - Statesman Rail Pullman Livery

MK2F FO:
3330 - Carmine and Cream
3312, 3344, 3348, 3384, 3426 - Statesman Rail Pullman Livery.

MK2F RLO:
6708 - Statesman Rail Pullman Livery. On hire from Eastern Rail Services.

Mk3:

Mk3 Sleepers:


10520 - Blood and Custard

10504, 10513, 10519, 10648, 10650, 10683, 10688

*All except as noted currently in ex First ScotRail Barbie / Caledonian Sleeper livery.

Mk3 Loco Hauled:
TSO - 10224, 12111, 12171
TSOB - 10411, 10416
FO - 11068, 11070, 11075, 11076, 11077, 11087, 11091, 11098
DVT - 82127 - Intercity Swallow, 82139 - Greater Anglia.

*All currently in ex Greater Anglia livery except for 10416 which is now in Intercity Swallow Livery (repainted by Arriva Traincare Crewe).

Mk3 HST Vehicles:
TC - 46006, 46012, 46014
TRFB - 40801, 40802, 40804, 40808
TRSMB - 40106
TF - 41059, 41108, 41149, 41162, 41169, 41176, 41182, 41187
TS - 42319, 42583
TGS - 44078, 44081

*All HST Vehicles currently in FGW Dynamic Lines & First GWR Green livery.

Currently in Eastleigh are:
43046/055/083
5366, 17080, 10416
46014, 40802, 46006, 40801, 44078, 41059, 41108, 41162, 41169, 41176, 41182

All compiled from info from Flickr / Carl Watsons website & @Phil Scott . I will update the thread accordingly, and include the Mk1 & Mk2 fleets when and where possible!
 
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Do LSL still operate 08737 and 08780? Also spotted a typo with 47593s other number, should be 47790 not 47791.
 

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A lot more carriages in the fleet than those listed of the Mk1 and Mk2 varieties including a mix of stored and operational. Apologies, I can't help with numbers but there used to be published lists floating about.

Also 47841 stored at Margate museum and an ex Freightliner 47/8 plus possibly one of the ex DRS ones still at Eastleigh were suggested as joining the fleet a while ago. Not sure on the current status of either or whether that happened though as this year has played havoc with my memory on a few things.
 

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Currently in Eastleigh are:
43083
5366
46014, 40802, 46006, 40801, 44078.

All compiled from info from Flickr / Carl Watsons website & @Phil Scott . I will update the thread accordingly, and include the Mk1 & Mk2 fleets when and where possible!
I believe 41059/108/162/169/176/182 are also at Eastleigh - arrived on 12 March.

Looking at the list of HST stock at Eastleigh, I'd surmise a first class dining rake is being assembled. Six TFs, two TRFBs, and (as a pure guess) that the two 46xxx trailer composites may be there to donate their first class seating to convert 44078 from a TGS to a TGF.
 

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I believe it should be noted that the Mk3 stock is "ex Greater Anglia" (red and white) and not "ex Anglia" (green) - I'm sure you mean red and white but maybe worth an edit for the avoidance of confusion?

Thanks for putting the list together! They are getting quite the fleet :)
 

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I think 20096 might be freshly repainted in Green. It does a bit of shunting on the depot at Crewe from time to time, but is too far away to be 100% sure of the number.
 

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Both 20s have reported over on wnxx as now being in Green.

Thanks to putting together a list of what they have :smile:
 

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Both 20s have reported over on wnxx as now being in Green.

Thanks to putting together a list of what they have :smile:
They've moved quickly with both of those two then! Thanks all, I'll update the list accordingly. I'm aware of the Margate locos but have decided to keep this one as the mainline fleet for now.
 

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I believe 41059/108/162/169/176/182 are also at Eastleigh - arrived on 12 March.

Looking at the list of HST stock at Eastleigh, I'd surmise a first class dining rake is being assembled. Six TFs, two TRFBs, and (as a pure guess) that the two 46xxx trailer composites may be there to donate their first class seating to convert 44078 from a TGS to a TGF.
Thanks for that, tiredness finally got the better of me when compiling this list this morning so I'll add those in now.

As for the Eastleigh HST rakes, It certainly would appear to be a full dining style rake. I do wonder about the 408XXs though, as a lot of them were in a pretty rough state when they left Great Western. There is also a few 407XXs which haven't made it into the scrap line and have instead found themselves to be stored undercover so I'm wondering if there will ultimately be a swap in the near future.
 

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It's an amazing collection of motive power. A bit heavy on ETH 47s, and no Peaks or smaller Sulzers. Lets hope we see plenty of the collection out on the main line.
 

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It's an amazing collection of motive power. A bit heavy on ETH 47s, and no Peaks or smaller Sulzers. Lets hope we see plenty of the collection out on the main line.
I could be completely wrong in thinking this but is 45118 destined for LSL once its been repaired?
 

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I could be completely wrong in thinking this but is 45118 destined for LSL once its been repaired?
Yes. I have read that too. Difficult to work out the futures of these but I was under the impression 37688 40013 45118 47712 are loans whereas 37190 I believe was a purchase. Also 47811 and 47816 bought from Freightliner for parts then breaking, whereas 47841 from the same source has been vinyled and stored at Margate alongside 55016. Perhaps 47841 has a future or maybe a parts bin too.

More unsure is the movement of HST vehicles. As "43096" suggests, it looks as though a premium rake of HST trailers is being put together at Eastleigh and maybe some of the fleet are parts donors. LSLs seem to have "processed" some Mk3s at their HQ in Crewe before despatching some to Sms at Newport. The HST trailers which were collected from Tyne Yard by 37521+37667 for example - have they been moved on since ?

Lots going on
 

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More unsure is the movement of HST vehicles. As "43096" suggests, it looks as though a premium rake of HST trailers is being put together at Eastleigh and maybe some of the fleet are parts donors. LSLs seem to have "processed" some Mk3s at their HQ in Crewe before despatching some to Sms at Newport. The HST trailers which were collected from Tyne Yard by 37521+37667 for example - have they been moved on since ?
If you mean the five vehicles from EC64 collected from Tyne Yard, they went to Crewe and subsequently to Sims, Newport on 19 March.
 

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Yes. I have read that too. Difficult to work out the futures of these but I was under the impression 37688 40013 45118 47712 are loans whereas 37190 I believe was a purchase. Also 47811 and 47816 bought from Freightliner for parts then breaking, whereas 47841 from the same source has been vinyled and stored at Margate alongside 55016. Perhaps 47841 has a future or maybe a parts bin too.
I've noted the locos which are mainline operable and on loan in the list - I probably wont do the Margate fleet for now as the ownership between the 1:1 Collection / LSL / Saphos Trains all seems very fluid for now, indeed the 1:1 Website lists locos in use at Crewe but doesn't list some of the locos going to Margate. I've also not included 45118 yet for two reasons, the first being it isn't currently in the mainline operable fleet and the second - who owns it?
 
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Last week 87 002 was doing light engine movements between Crewe and Preston. I saw it on 8th June just north of Wigan NW and I think it worked 9th and 10th too. Couple of round trips each day. Keeping drivers up to speed?
 

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It's an amazing collection of motive power. A bit heavy on ETH 47s, and no Peaks or smaller Sulzers. Lets hope we see plenty of the collection out on the main line.
LSL has 45118 (which is missing from the list at the top). It is being worked on and was on the load bank at Barrow Hill a couple of weeks ago.
 

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Yes "43096" it was they. Did they have anything done on them / from them in the short time they were at Crewe, or maybe just a transit stop off.
They would have just removed the parts they require from them before delivering them for Scrap. I'm not sure what parts, considering the amount of of Ex GW vehicles they have taken on since.

Minor amendment to the list, as Mk1 BCK 21096 is in Margate.
 

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Why have they only got one HST powercar? Are they planning to buy another?
Some talk elsewhere that this is destined for Margate. It always seemed to be the plan in the past that the LSL HST would be powered by MTUs. Using VP185s would have some advantages, but would make the powercars very much loaners once the EMR fleet is retired.
 

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It always seemed to be the plan in the past that the LSL HST would be powered by MTUs.
Plan according to who? There were some mighty big assumptions by enthusiasts, but there was never any statement from LSL as to which configuration of vehicles they were taking.
 

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Marginally off-topic, LSL steam loco 34046 "Braunton" was fired up on the depot at Crewe today. It went for a spin via Gresty and Basford Hall to turn it on the triangle, accompanied by a BSK support coach. Maybe they are working up to a main line test run some time in the next few days?
 

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Marginally off-topic, LSL steam loco 34046 "Braunton" was fired up on the depot at Crewe today. It went for a spin via Gresty and Basford Hall to turn it on the triangle, accompanied by a BSK support coach. Maybe they are working up to a main line test run some time in the next few days?
Trains resuming from Mid July so all suitable preparation will be underway by now.
 

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Some talk elsewhere that this is destined for Margate. It always seemed to be the plan in the past that the LSL HST would be powered by MTUs. Using VP185s would have some advantages, but would make the powercars very much loaners once the EMR fleet is retired.
Makes sense, thanks
 

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