Did it actually work in multi, though? If so that would probably have worked by the ETS being permanently on when the engine was running - the ETHELs couldn't provide traction power so the generator must have been wired direct to the ETS sockets.
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Did it actually work in multi, though? If so that would probably have worked by the ETS being permanently on when the engine was running - the ETHELs couldn't provide traction power so the generator must have been wired direct to the ETS sockets.
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On the ETHEL the ETS was not provided all the time the engine was running. You had to enter the vehicle and turn on the ETS, at which point the engine note would rise noticeably. The multi working was connected up so that if the fire alarm was triggered on the ETHEL then it would show up in the cab of the 37 as a fault.
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All this talk of 37s and 73s for the BEL depends on what you are trying to achieve. First, is the BEL just the usual SR 750V DC train supply or will it be able to take standard 850-1000V supply as well?
If the latter there is no point using the 73, unless you have a 73/9 and want to run in push-pull mode. If you want push-pull without a 73/9, you'll need a 33/1. Otherwise just drag it with a LSL Duff.
If the latter there is no point using the 73, unless you have a 73/9 and want to run in push-pull mode. If you want push-pull without a 73/9, you'll need a 33/1. Otherwise just drag it with a LSL Duff.
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73/1s did provide ETS on diesel, we had to use diesel from the PRDC across the WCML for the Dover TPO, the posties would certainly have dropped the lack of supply into conversation ........
Diesel certainly didn't give a lot of power but sufficient for when I usually used it, with the TPO empties from Dover to Ashford there were numerous 3rd rail gaps between Minster Jct and Ashford and at 5am it was a lot easier to use diesel than keep running the power off, with a 60mph speed limit it managed just fine, obviously a higher line speed would have required a rethink
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I'm fairly sure 73/1s can't supply ETS on diesel, have experience of one and nowhere is there an ETS on switch for diesel. Sure the short distance off the juice wouldn't have been noticed on TPO as heaters would take a while to cool. 73/0s can heat on diesel but only if traction power not required.
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Wyrleybart
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Apologies "43096". That is what I meant to say. Thanks for pointing it out.
We were on a Birmingham-Hastings ADEX way back then, with the usual roarer to Mitre Bridge, for the Crompton to Eastbourne where they backed the 73/0 on. The weather was pretty miserable and overcast so the young driver switched the ETH on while the ED was burbling away waiting the tip. Got the road, driver took power and the burbling ceased. Someone from the front coach legged it up to the cab and suggested the driver switched the ETH off, and off we went.
There was a similar issue on a tour to the Severn Valley many many years ago which involved a "JA" (73/0) and a "KB" (33/1) in mult. Fine so long as ETH wasn't selected.
So yes, a 73/0 can heat on diesel when static. I am not an expert but I imagine the control and power supply system could be converted from 73/0 to 73/1 standard, but as "43096" says, expecting that much from a 73 on diesel is optimistic to say the least. Has the BB been fitted out with energy saving lighting ? The heat and on board catering would still suck a far amount out of the 73's meagre supply.
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Interestingly there is a rumour elsewhere that LSL have bought 33110. An ideal loco for shoving the BEL around away from the stabiliser rail.
That would make a great deal of sense. It was offered for sale by Bodmin & Wenford Railway:
33110 Sealed Bid Auction
An ideal addition to the LSL fleet, if confirmed.
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37521 just failed at Blackburn, while operating the 5Z47 Crewe H.S to Appleby Sidings move, of the skipton-appleby stock. according to a user on railcam, 37521 had an electrical issue, with the loco and GSMR shutting down. the stock is now on it's way back to Crewe as 5Z48 with 47593 leading.
37407 has replaced 521 for tomorrow apparently, running 5Z49 from Crewe now.
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It's the same 37 - 37521 has been repaired.
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Also apparently HST class 43 43060 isn’t going to LSL I’m afraid to say it along with 050 are going to Colas.
So if 060 isn’t off to LSL then which unit is off to LSL with 043 then according to roumers?
So if 060 isn’t off to LSL then which unit is off to LSL with 043 then according to roumers?
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What are Colas doing with 43s? more NR work, like their 67s?
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I'd suggest for evaluation to replace the 67s and/or the geriatric 37s.
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We saw 33110 on a low loader heading East on the M4 at Reading at about 07:30 this morning. Assume it is off to a new home
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Yesterday LSL ran an ecs from Crewe to Cotton Hill and back with 45231 + 37521. What was the purpose of this?
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According to the various Flickr photos they were out on crew training
IamTrainsYT
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37688's been out on route learning for the blue Pullman tour the past 2 days
speaking of the Pullman, there's a path in for it's return from eastleigh
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
speaking of the Pullman, there's a path in for it's return from eastleigh
Realtime Trains - 503R 1555 Eastleigh Arlington (Zg) to Crewe H.S.
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www.realtimetrains.co.uk
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Any idea when the two that are getting intercity livery leave Eastleigh? & will they have a matching rake of mk3s too? Thanks to anyone that can help with the information!
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not for a while but yes theres a full set too
The HST training train (Crewe - Carnforth - Rugby - Crewe) was two de-branded EMT power cars and four ex-GWR trailers.
https://flic.kr/p/2k2D5uD (not my photo)
There was hope that it would have been the Blue Pullman set which has made it to Crewe:
https://flic.kr/p/2k1MkTj (again not my photo)
https://flic.kr/p/2k2D5uD (not my photo)
There was hope that it would have been the Blue Pullman set which has made it to Crewe:
https://flic.kr/p/2k1MkTj (again not my photo)
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HSTs with no yellow panels look very odd. Definitely not sure about it!
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Hope by who ? Maybe you ?
AIUI the livery detail couldn't be completed in time at Eastleigh, so I guess it will be completed at Crewe prior to official launch. Makes sense to give the other power cars a run out.
Well yes, you got a problem with that?
A number of other enthusiasts seemed to as well, we all put 2 & 2 together (set being delivered to Crewe and pre-tour training runs scheduled) but must have got 5.
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For those interested, the "Midland Pullman" HST rake recently released from Eastleigh is formed 43055 / 41176 / 41108 / 41162 / 41059 / 40801 / 41182 / 41169 / 44078 / 43046. The powercars have, for those unaware as to why the yellow ends have gone, been fitted with a new top headlight in addition to the original clusters.