I think you've hit the nail on the head there, - this is predominately an enthusiast's forum and views expressed are likely to reflect on nostalgic memories, (good and bad ones). I remember the thumpers as a commuter in south Hampshire. They were noisy, tatty and didn't ride that well even at the low speeds that the line allowed them to get to (about 60mph max). Would I like to ride on one now, - yes, it would be a novelty, but not 10 times a week in all weathers! Even a well worn Electrostar or Desiro would seem like heaven to normal passengers in the '80s compared with what was offered in many places then.But by the 21st century, the design was awful as well, and they were by far the worst trains on the network - slow, noisy and the last non-gangwayed stock anywhere. Even in pristine condition, I'd have hated travelling a long way every day on one. So...not missed for everyday use, although missed for the fun of travelling on them by choice - I think that's an important distinction.