London Blackfriars southeatern services before rebuilding 2009

[Mike bello]

could I please have the ex service out of Blackfriars before 2009

 

[NSE]

Would be interested to see that myself. I have a feeling it was largely half hourly to Sevenoaks via Ravensbourne and Swanley similar to the Thameslink offering now.

I would love to know if they ever ran anything London Bridge > Blackfriars. This was when I was young and didn’t take a detailed interest. My belief is they didn’t but if they did it would only have been last or first train of the day.

 

[ComUtoR]

I would love to know if they ever ran anything London Bridge > Blackfriars.

Yes they did.

 

[30907]

could I please have the ex service out of Blackfriars before 2009

Not sure exactly what you are asking for, but assuming immediately before 2009 it wasn't very different from now:
Sevenoaks via Catford and Swanley - 30min offpeak, 20min morning peak (at one time with extras from Bellingham/Shortlands/Bromley S.
Maidstone/Gillingham - limited peak service fast(-ish) to Bromley S
Beckenham Jn via Herne Hill - peak hours only.
Some trains started back from City TL.
The Wimbledon and Sutton route was Thameslink, plus the Gatwick services which in the peak mostly also ran via Tulse Hill.

Apart from Thamelink there were no regular trains via London Br, but in the distant past there was an 0102 Blackfriars-Orpington which cross-connected at LBG with the last Charing X-Dartford-Gillingham (and even at one time served Bromley N en route - which is no longer possible).

 

[Andrew S]

in the distant past there was an 0102 Blackfriars-Orpington which cross-connected at LBG with the last Charing X-Dartford-Gillingham (and even at one time served Bromley N en route - which is no longer possible).

How did it serve Bromley North? Did it go down the branch, then reverse and come back? Or did a portion detach somewhere eg Grove Park?

 

[cle]

Not sure exactly what you are asking for, but assuming immediately before 2009 it wasn't very different from now:
Sevenoaks via Catford and Swanley - 30min offpeak, 20min morning peak (at one time with extras from Bellingham/Shortlands/Bromley S.
Maidstone/Gillingham - limited peak service fast(-ish) to Bromley S
Beckenham Jn via Herne Hill - peak hours only.
Some trains started back from City TL.
The Wimbledon and Sutton route was Thameslink, plus the Gatwick services which in the peak mostly also ran via Tulse Hill.

Apart from Thamelink there were no regular trains via London Br, but in the distant past there was an 0102 Blackfriars-Orpington which cross-connected at LBG with the last Charing X-Dartford-Gillingham (and even at one time served Bromley N en route - which is no longer possible).

I think the Maidstones were once to Ashford. They ran via Elephant, next stop Bromley South.

I don't recall SEML or Maidstone line services running via London Bridge and either Orpington or Swanley, but they may have, of course.

In addition to Beckenham, I think there were some Kent House turns too. That peak services survives today. Ideally it would be throughout the day, it's a better pairing at Herne Hill.

 

[30907]

I think the Maidstones were once to Ashford. They ran via Elephant, next stop Bromley South.

I don't recall SEML or Maidstone line services running via London Bridge and either Orpington or Swanley, but they may have, of course.

In addition to Beckenham, I think there were some Kent House turns too. That peak services survives today. Ideally it would be throughout the day, it's a better pairing at Herne Hill.

Yes to 1 and 3 (and to your recollection about London Br) at various times since 1967.

How did it serve Bromley North? Did it go down the branch, then reverse and come back? Or did a portion detach somewhere eg Grove Park?

Down the branch and back - this was early 70s BTW.
Come to think of it, I've forgotten the 0300 Holborn to Ramsgate passenger and news back then - via London Br and Dartford - but I'm not sure it called at BFR...

 

[4-SUB 4732]

I remember just before Blackfriars was rebuilt, when you had the 3 bay platforms.

You had the half-hourly Sevenoaks via Catford, and then a random mixture of peak extras all along the Catford and Chatham routes. I know of a 2Sxx which went to Herne Hill (called) then Bromley and stops to Rochester; there was a Kent House terminator from Vic that had a Blackfriars - Orpington behind it via Herne Hill. Some Ashford and I think a peak Broadstairs (?).

 

[30907]

I remember just before Blackfriars was rebuilt, when you had the 3 bay platforms.

You had the half-hourly Sevenoaks via Catford, and then a random mixture of peak extras all along the Catford and Chatham routes. I know of a 2Sxx which went to Herne Hill (called) then Bromley and stops to Rochester; there was a Kent House terminator from Vic that had a Blackfriars - Orpington behind it via Herne Hill. Some Ashford and I think a peak Broadstairs (?).

And back in the 70s there were the peak Dartfords (Loop and Bexleyheath) which were switched to Victoria...

 

[4-SUB 4732]

And back in the 70s there were the peak Dartfords (Loop and Bexleyheath) which were switched to Victoria...

I have to admit I thought the OP was only asking for about 2005-2008.

 

[30907]

I have to admit I thought the OP was only asking for about 2005-2008.

Well, so did I, which is where I started in #4.

 

[Mike bello]

Was platforms 1 and 2 used during off peak ?

 

[30907]

Was platforms 1 and 2 used during off peak ?

ISTR 1 was taken out before 2 and 3. Terminating trains (as post #4) would have used the bays, but I can't say which one was most used offpeak. They were also used for stock storage and could take 10 cars (the platforms themselves were only 8).

 

[NSE]

I seem to recall a 466 would often be stabled in a platform off peak