London Bridge - Victoria service( via Peckham Rye)

[frodshamfella]

I understand this route is going to end, I have used it a few times im dont live in London, but think it is a real handy link, and have found it quicker than the tube at times between these two termini .I also think it maybe the only London service that begins and end at two Central London stations ?

 

[Oracle]

There is also the Outer South London Line from Victoria to London Bridge via Crystal Palace.

When there has been engineering work I think there has been a shuttle from Charing Cross to Cannon Street via the single-track curve.

 

[Shaggy]

When I lived in Clapham, this service was a wonderful find saving me from the horrors of cramming onto the Northern Line into Bank at 8am.

The service was excellently used throughout peak times, however it was always practically empty at other times which I guess is where the problems lie.

 

[tbtc]

When there has been engineering work I think there has been a shuttle from Charing Cross to Cannon Street via the single-track curve

I've wondered whether anything ever used that chord - cheers

As for the OP, I suppose the problem with this route is that it takes up four paths each hour into/out of two of the busiest stations in the UK, which could be used instead for long distance services

 

[12CSVT]

I've wondered whether anything ever used that chord - cheers

As for the OP, I suppose the problem with this route is that it takes up four paths each hour into/out of two of the busiest stations in the UK, which could be used instead for long distance services

The chord between Metropolitan Jct and Cannon Street is used for quite a few ECS workings during the peak hours (about 10 trains each morning and the same in the evening). Only once done that chord about 20 years ago when there was an emergency possession on plat 6 at London Bridge.

 

[Oracle]

Isn't it called the Metropolitan Curve or similar? Back in 1973 I used to go to the Legal & General building in Queen Anne Street, and from there you could see the entrance to Cannon Street and the chord..I am sure it was a double-track then.

 

[swt_passenger]

The chord between Metropolitan Jct and Cannon Street is used for quite a few ECS workings during the peak hours (about 10 trains each morning and the same in the evening). Only once done that chord about 20 years ago when there was an emergency possession on plat 6 at London Bridge.

Soon to be removed if according to the plans the Thameslink Project disconnects it at the Borough Market end, I think it just becomes a single 12 car siding...

 

[thefab444]

Isn't it called the Metropolitan Curve or similar? Back in 1973 I used to go to the Legal & General building in Queen Anne Street, and from there you could see the entrance to Cannon Street and the chord..I am sure it was a double-track then.

Yes, Metropolitan Curve.

It's used a few times every year for Cannon Street - Charing Cross shuttles during engineering works.

 

[tbtc]

The chord between Metropolitan Jct and Cannon Street is used for quite a few ECS workings during the peak hours (about 10 trains each morning and the same in the evening). Only once done that chord about 20 years ago when there was an emergency possession on plat 6 at London Bridge.

Cheers - didn't realise

Which direction are they running in each peak (our of interest)?

 

[12CSVT]

Cheers - didn't realise

Which direction are they running in each peak (our of interest)?

Away from Cannon Street in the mornings, towards Cannon Street in the evenings.
As far as I'm aware on leaving Cannon Street they run into a siding just south of the river from Blackfriars Station before heading towards any of several carriage sidings in south London (eg, Victoria Grosvenor depot, Bellingham, possibly Orpington). They then do the reverse for the evening peak.

 

[chuffchuff]

Mainly Grove Park

 

[bravesirrobin]

I've wondered whether anything ever used that chord - cheers

As for the OP, I suppose the problem with this route is that it takes up four paths each hour into/out of two of the busiest stations in the UK, which could be used instead for long distance services

Yep...Once the works start at London Bridge, and the ELL extension to Clapham via Wandsworth Road starts running(late 2011?), it's gone as there are no paths.

Just hoping they have something to replace it into Victoria on Sundays!

 

[swt_passenger]

There's a TfL report on the negotiations for a replacement service which should be of interest to those in the area...

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/corporate/south-london-line-study-findings.pdf

Option 7 seems to be the one they are trying to introduce...

 

[The Barlow Boy]

Isn't it called the Metropolitan Curve or similar? Back in 1973 I used to go to the Legal & General building in Queen Anne Street, and from there you could see the entrance to Cannon Street and the chord..I am sure it was a double-track then.

The chord certainly was laid and operated as double track.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I remember it being double track; I'm pretty sure it was still double track when I bashed it between Waterloo east and Cannon Street with a 47/3 and a pair of CEPs in the "wrong snow" event in 1991...

From memory, it was singled in the mid 1990s.

 

[thefab444]

Just a quick semi-related heads up; Metropolitan Curve will be in use on Sunday 5th December. Services that normally run out of Charing Cross will divert to Cannon Street, and there will be a shuttle service between Charing Cross and Cannon Street - usually this runs to a 15 minute frequency and is formed of Class 376 units.