London Midland problems

[IanPooleTrains]

You appear to be complaining for the sake of complaining, not trying to come up with realistic "solutions", not willing to listen to the experience of other people (including the knowledgeable staff on this thread)

No, I was making observations FYI and this never started to come up with "solutions"

If you people wanna shoot down my observations, maybe i should ask myself DILLIGAF?

 

[Minilad]

How does that even come close to resolving it?

And I didn't come on here to even come up with a resolution!

You asked why they keep cramming people onto trains. That is a way to stop overcrowded trains. Only allow the same number of people on the train as there are seats

 

[IanPooleTrains]

You asked why they keep cramming people onto trains. That is a way to stop overcrowded trains. Only allow the same number of people on the train as there are seats

Okay then, and what happens if a person with a reserved ticket for that train doesn't get on that because of your assanine solution?

 

[Minilad]

Okay then, and what happens if a person with a reserved ticket for that train doesn't get on that because of your assanine solution?

Then a seat goes empty, simple. Just like the hundreds of reserved seats that go unused every single day.
Now. Whats your solution

 

[IanPooleTrains]

Then a seat goes empty, simple. Just like the hundreds of reserved seats that go unused every single day.
Now. Whats your solution

You have obviously misinterpreted your own question

You said:

Only allow the same number of people on the train as there are seats

So train gets full, everyone is sitting down in their seat and here comes someone with a reserved ticket on that train and he cannot get on because someone said just allow the same number of people on the train as there are seats, what then genius?

 

[Minilad]

You have obviously misinterpreted your own question

You said:



So train gets full, everyone is sitting down in their seat and here comes someone with a reserved ticket on that train and he cannot get on because someone said just allow the same number of people on the train as there are seats, what then genius?

If everyone on the train could only get on with a reserved seat and this guy had a reserved seat then quite obviously there would still be a seat left for him.
Now. Leaving aside the personal remarks would you please explain what you would do to solve the problem you think exists. Thank you

 

[IanPooleTrains]

If everyone on the train could only get on with a reserved seat and this guy had a reserved seat then quite obviously there would still be a seat left for him.
Now. Leaving aside the personal remarks would you please explain what you would do to solve the problem you think exists. Thank you

There isn't one because it is just going to keep happening, simple!

 

[OxtedL]

Ian, you are again looking silly.

XCDriver is very obviously demonstrating that your hypothetical "stop overcrowding on trains to help safety" rant is utter nonsense. He's not seriously suggesting what he's saying, he's showing you that it's unworkable, the hard way. Once again you are being strangely aggressive. Can you please desist from this ignorance now?

 

[Minilad]

Ian, you are again looking silly.

XCDriver is very obviously demonstrating that your hypothetical "stop overcrowding on trains to help safety" rant is utter nonsense. He's not seriously suggesting what he's saying, he's showing you that it's unworkable, the hard way. Once again you are being strangely aggressive. Can you please desist from this ignorance now?

Indeed, Thank you

 

[AlterEgo]

Welcome back Ian.

 

[IanPooleTrains]

XCDriver is very obviously demonstrating that your hypothetical "stop overcrowding on trains to help safety" rant is utter nonsense.

Okay then, when we have a huge train crash, god forbid, and we have two overcrowded trains crashing into each other resulting in hundreds of fatalities, please feel free to come back and tell me I talk utter nonsense, call me silly, call me ignorant and every other name under the sun

 

[tbtc]

No, I was making observations FYI and this never started to come up with "solutions"

If you people wanna shoot down my observations, maybe i should ask myself DILLIGAF?

Charming.

I'm really not sure what the point of this thread was then (if you are not looking for any "solutions" and don't want to learn from the railway staff on here), other than to complain about how your local branchline (with 100mph 170s etc) is hard done by...

 

[AlterEgo]

Okay Ian, so you'd be happy to revert to a reservation only system? Refusing access to everyone who hasn't booked a seat in advance?

Answer the question.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Okay then, when we have a huge train crash, god forbid, and we have two overcrowded trains crashing into each other resulting in hundreds of fatalities, please feel free to come back and tell me I talk utter nonsense, call me silly, call me ignorant and every other name under the sun

I would rather be on two overcrowded trains that crash than two half full trains. Surely it lessens the risk of fatality?

 

[tbtc]

Okay then, when we have a huge train crash, god forbid, and we have two overcrowded trains crashing into each other resulting in hundreds of fatalities, please feel free to come back and tell me I talk utter nonsense, call me silly, call me ignorant and every other name under the sun

So, that'd be all our fault then?

And only letting people onto trains who held reservations is the only way forward?

What are you trying to say Ian?

 

[IanPooleTrains]

Charming.

I'm really not sure what the point of this thread was then (if you are not looking for any "solutions" and don't want to learn from the railway staff on here), other than to complain about how your local branchline (with 100mph 170s etc) is hard done by...

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo

I was observing on LM in general but please feel free to carry on

 

[Minilad]

Okay then, when we have a huge train crash, god forbid, and we have two overcrowded trains crashing into each other resulting in hundreds of fatalities, please feel free to come back and tell me I talk utter nonsense, call me silly, call me ignorant and every other name under the sun

Right. Who want's this one. I would but I would just get called a genius and asinine so I will leave it for someone else to pick it up and run with it.

Ian. Just stop. Please. You are not adding anything to any debate here you are just making it worse for yourself. I know everyone is entitled to an opinion but sometimes you have to wonder what this is all leading up to.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

What about people who get 20 minutes notice before a train is due about an event that requires their attendance (i.e. important meeting brought forward / new child being born)? Do they have to wait a further two hours so that they can book a reservation?

 

[Hydro]

My observations are fact. FACT.

Don't try and discuss them.

 

[OxtedL]

Okay then, when we have a huge train crash, god forbid, and we have two overcrowded trains crashing into each other resulting in hundreds of fatalities, please feel free to come back and tell me I talk utter nonsense, call me silly, call me ignorant and every other name under the sun

And yet again you have utterly missed the point. You are one of the most remarkable people I have ever come across.

Regardless of whether this is the case, the point being made is that THERE IS NO PRACTICAL WAY to prevent overcrowding occurring on the railway in the vast majority of situations. No-one is claiming this is a good thing. Wake up.

I've wasted enough of my life on this now, I think...

 

[Mike395]

I think this is just going to continue going round in circles. Topic locked.