London Underground stock requests

[Bigchris]

Gents,
Thanks so much for that, a great help indeed and very much appreciated. Regarding train 52, my original note from the day was actually 91227 but I doubted myself after seeing 91237 on the intertube site a couple of times so thought I might have got it wrong. Reassuring to know my eyesight isn't as bad as I thought it might have been even after quite a few pints
Thanks again, Chris

 

[Roylang]

I can confirm that on 21/04/2022 I saw 91227 91075 93056 and 91007 running as a set, so I would assume that @notverydeep has access to good records and that probably one car in the sets that I saw and listed had changed by the dates you were looking at.

Roy

 

[Bigchris]

Afternoon all,
I've got some more incomplete Central Line workings from this week if anybody has any sightings or access to stock lists for any of them. Any help with any of them would be very much appreciated as I've now exhausted the open access websites I'm aware of. I think the driving cars are correct so these should only be the middle sets needed for these:

6/6/22

#901 (LUL strike)
91023
91267

7/6/22

#51
91059
91223

#14
91017
91077

#13 (intertube originally had 91035 & 91203 so I assume there was a set change by the time I saw it)
91085
91141

#21
91009
91131

#143
91129
91219

#47
91087
91335

8/6/22

#51
91229
91243

#46
91199
91157

9/6/22

#30
91065
91209

#01
91123
91099

#22
91073
91277

#33
91279
91349

#27
91185
91107

#113
91039
91251

#44
91061
91137

#26
91245
91167

#12
91299 possibly but see #06 on 10/6/22
91083

#120
91113
91173

#116
91159
91043

#111
91335
91087

10/6/22

#42
91105
91179

#06
91149
91299 possibly, see #12 above on 9/6/22

#12
91189
91169

#10
91283
91125

Fingers crossed, many thanks, Chris

 

[Roylang]

Back in London tonight and hoping to get my last S7 pair which were stopped: 21549 / 21550.

I have been checking Intertube every few days and haven't seen them work - can anybody please confirm they are still stopped?

Many thanks,

Roy

 

[notverydeep]

Afternoon all,
I've got some more incomplete Central Line workings from this week if anybody has any sightings or access to stock lists for any of them. Any help with any of them would be very much appreciated as I've now exhausted the open access websites I'm aware of. I think the driving cars are correct so these should only be the middle sets needed for these:

6/6/22

#901 (LUL strike)
91023
91267

7/6/22

#51
91059
91223

#14
91017
91077

#13 (intertube originally had 91035 & 91203 so I assume there was a set change by the time I saw it)
91085
91141

#21
91009
91131

#143
91129
91219

#47
91087
91335

8/6/22

#51
91229
91243

#46
91199
91157

9/6/22

#30
91065
91209

#01
91123
91099

#22
91073
91277

#33
91279
91349

#27
91185
91107

#113
91039
91251

#44
91061
91137

#26
91245
91167

#12
91299 possibly but see #06 on 10/6/22
91083

#120
91113
91173

#116
91159
91043

#111
91335
91087

10/6/22

#42
91105
91179

#06
91149
91299 possibly, see #12 above on 9/6/22

#12
91189
91169

#10
91283
91125

Fingers crossed, many thanks, Chris

Here is a list of the current formations:

91003 93158 93456 91079
91005 91311 93160 91177
91011 93106 93086 91249
91013 93452 93156 91323
91015 93092 93228 91163
91017 93036 93126 91077
91021 93044 93032 91033
91023 93236 93254 91267
91031 93252 93074 91281
91037 93084 93014 91303
91041 93140 93118 91145
91043 93104 93448 91159
91047 93122 93052 91097
91049 93148 93124 91339
91053 93436 93258 91235
91057 93114 93168 91195
91061 93022 93420 91137
91063 93070 93224 91231
91065 93262 93082 91209
91069 93006 93116 91139
91073 93440 93154 91277
91083 93458 93090 91295
91087 93038 93210 91335
91091 93180 93240 91071
91099 93266 93002 91123
91103 93198 93454 91325
91105 93416 93094 91179
91107 93134 93232 91185
91109 93026 93206 91093
91115 93162 93248 91265
91117 93190 93244 91133
91121 93430 93004 91273
91125 93428 93418 91283
91129 93030 93202 91219
91131 93130 93072 91009
91141 93246 93412 91085
91147 93462 93152 91135
91149 93230 93242 91299
91153 93438 93034 91051
91155 93142 93012 91331
91165 93098 93146 91171
91173 93194 93064 91113
91181 93088 93080 91257
91189 93200 93192 91169
91193 93028 93058 91161
91199 93414 93450 91157
91203 91187 93066 91035
91205 93170 93172 91285
91207 93102 93024 91143
91215 93062 93016 91221
91217 93464 93100 91233
91223 93220 93078 91059
91225 93010 93120 91183
91227 91075 93056 91007
91229 93204 93112 91243
91237 93128 93218 91293
91245 93404 93008 91167
91251 93216 93042 91039
91253 93060 93040 91211
91255 93136 93196 91191
91259 93068 93174 91027
91261 93096 93424 91271
91263 93446 93222 91111
91269 93050 93144 91095
91287 93260 93406 91119
91289 93442 93138 91197
91291 93046 93408 91025
91297 93108 93434 91241
91301 93186 93256 91081
91305 93432 93076 91347
91307 93132 93238 91055
91309 93166 93226 91045
91313 93410 93018 91151
91315 93178 93182 91019
91317 93426 93164 91275
91319 93020 93184 91247
91327 93214 93234 91321
91333 91175 93250 91029
91343 93048 93212 91067
91345 93188 93402 91213
91349 93444 91089 91279

The list includes 82 8 car formations, leaving 12 units 'stopped', although the above may include whole 8 cars that are currently stopped. As far as I can tell there haven't been any formations that have changed since 6 June. I cannot guarantee that the list is completely up to date / accurate.

Back in London tonight and hoping to get my last S7 pair which were stopped: 21549 / 21550.

I have been checking Intertube every few days and haven't seen them work - can anybody please confirm they are still stopped?

Many thanks,

Roy

21549/50 remains at Ealing Common stopped, with a current earliest date of 30 June 2022 for return...

 

[Bigchris]

Here is a list of the current formations:

91003 93158 93456 91079
91005 91311 93160 91177
91011 93106 93086 91249
91013 93452 93156 91323
91015 93092 93228 91163
91017 93036 93126 91077
91021 93044 93032 91033
91023 93236 93254 91267
91031 93252 93074 91281
91037 93084 93014 91303
91041 93140 93118 91145
91043 93104 93448 91159
91047 93122 93052 91097
91049 93148 93124 91339
91053 93436 93258 91235
91057 93114 93168 91195
91061 93022 93420 91137
91063 93070 93224 91231
91065 93262 93082 91209
91069 93006 93116 91139
91073 93440 93154 91277
91083 93458 93090 91295
91087 93038 93210 91335
91091 93180 93240 91071
91099 93266 93002 91123
91103 93198 93454 91325
91105 93416 93094 91179
91107 93134 93232 91185
91109 93026 93206 91093
91115 93162 93248 91265
91117 93190 93244 91133
91121 93430 93004 91273
91125 93428 93418 91283
91129 93030 93202 91219
91131 93130 93072 91009
91141 93246 93412 91085
91147 93462 93152 91135
91149 93230 93242 91299
91153 93438 93034 91051
91155 93142 93012 91331
91165 93098 93146 91171
91173 93194 93064 91113
91181 93088 93080 91257
91189 93200 93192 91169
91193 93028 93058 91161
91199 93414 93450 91157
91203 91187 93066 91035
91205 93170 93172 91285
91207 93102 93024 91143
91215 93062 93016 91221
91217 93464 93100 91233
91223 93220 93078 91059
91225 93010 93120 91183
91227 91075 93056 91007
91229 93204 93112 91243
91237 93128 93218 91293
91245 93404 93008 91167
91251 93216 93042 91039
91253 93060 93040 91211
91255 93136 93196 91191
91259 93068 93174 91027
91261 93096 93424 91271
91263 93446 93222 91111
91269 93050 93144 91095
91287 93260 93406 91119
91289 93442 93138 91197
91291 93046 93408 91025
91297 93108 93434 91241
91301 93186 93256 91081
91305 93432 93076 91347
91307 93132 93238 91055
91309 93166 93226 91045
91313 93410 93018 91151
91315 93178 93182 91019
91317 93426 93164 91275
91319 93020 93184 91247
91327 93214 93234 91321
91333 91175 93250 91029
91343 93048 93212 91067
91345 93188 93402 91213
91349 93444 91089 91279

The list includes 82 8 car formations, leaving 12 units 'stopped', although the above may include whole 8 cars that are currently stopped. As far as I can tell there haven't been any formations that have changed since 6 June. I cannot guarantee that the list is completely up to date / accurate.



21549/50 remains at Ealing Common stopped, with a current earliest date of 30 June 2022 for return...

Thanks so much, that list is exactly what I've been after for a while now and will come in extremely useful. We can use this as a starting point now and if anybody has any sightings that show any set swaps we can just stick them on here and hopefully keep a relatively up to date list. Now to work out which sets match what I've seen recently

 

[Roylang]

Thanks @notverydeep

It seems my last pair will evade me a little longer.

Roy

 

[Roylang]

Afternoon all,

If possible, could somebody please fill in the gaps for these Central Line formations last week:

5/7: 91181,92080,92088,91257 (unsure if is was really 92088)
6/7: 91243,92112,92204,91xxx
7/7: 91031,92252,92040,91xxx
91339,92xxx,92xxx,91061

Thanks in advance,

Roy

 

[Bigchris]

Hi Roy,
From my own sightings recently:

5/7: Yes, 92088 seen in that set 29th Jun.
6/7: I saw that set with 91229 on the missing end on 25th Jun.
7/7: Can't help, I saw that set on 25th Jun but it was 91031, 92252, 92074 & 91281.
And the last one I'd like to know myself too, I saw it on 25th Jun but only got the 2 end pairs.

Sorry it doesn't answer your question fully but at least it's 50%

Cheers, Chris

 

[notverydeep]

Afternoon all,

If possible, could somebody please fill in the gaps for these Central Line formations last week:

5/7: 91181,92080,92088,91257 (unsure if is was really 92088)
6/7: 91243,92112,92204,91xxx
7/7: 91031,92252,92040,91xxx
91339,92xxx,92xxx,91061

Thanks in advance,

Roy

@Roylang - the box of tricks says that these were the compositions: 91031 93074 93252 91281 and 91061 93124 93148 91339. I'm using 93XXX for the B unit as the 'system' appears to...

92040 / 93040 is shown as being with the following: 91253 93040 93080 91211. There do appear to have been some reforms to the set containing 91061 since the list posted on 13 June. None are specifically in the list of reforms, so I couldn't say whether these occurred before or after 7/7. The 'computer' says that 93080 has been swapped out from the 91181 set for 93010 and into the 91253 set - one part of this reform was on 10/7...

 

[Bigchris]

Thanks for the info on those, very helpful indeed. I've been lagging a bit looking at some of my sightings over the last few weeks due to travelling up and down the country several times for work. Got a few more to add to the list of Central Line set clarifications if anybody is able to look them up (and if they're still in the same formations of course):

Seen on 25th Jun, not 100% sure on the last end cars for the first 2 and missed the middle 2 on the last set:
91103, 93144, 93050, 91268?
91327, 93214, 93092, 91225?
91063, ?????, ?????, 91017

For info, saw the following set on 25th Jun that has changed since the previous list:
91339, 93124, 93148, 91061

Seen on 26th Jun:
91237, ?????, ?????, 91335
91325, ?????, ?????, 91213
91103, ?????, ?????, 91269
All 3 sets changed since previous list

Seen on 28th Jun:
91151, ?????, ?????, 91291

And today, 91237, ?????, ?????, 91191 working #121 (seen at 1900 at Ruislip Gardens) if Intertube site is to be believed, if correct the set has been changed again since 26th Jun.

Any help with these would be very much appreciated.

Cheers, Chris

 

[Roylang]

Thanks to you both.

@Bigchris on 5/7 I saw 91151,92408,92046,91291 which probably gives you your centre cars as 91151,92408 and 92046 were together on 13/6 as reported by @notverydeep, so are likely to have been together since then with only the one end changing.

Roy

 

[Bigchris]

Thanks to you both.

@Bigchris on 5/7 I saw 91151,92408,92046,91291 which probably gives you your centre cars as 91151,92408 and 92046 were together on 13/6 as reported by @notverydeep, so are likely to have been together since then with only the one end changing.

Roy

Thanks very much Roy. I could probably do with checking the rest of my recent sightings with the original list to see if any more have changed but just haven't had the time. Should get chance next week if I can't get on the job sooner. Also not planning on going out anywhere unnecessarily for the foreseeable future either, it's way too hot for that at the moment!

 

[notverydeep]

Thanks for the info on those, very helpful indeed. I've been lagging a bit looking at some of my sightings over the last few weeks due to travelling up and down the country several times for work. Got a few more to add to the list of Central Line set clarifications if anybody is able to look them up (and if they're still in the same formations of course):

Seen on 25th Jun, not 100% sure on the last end cars for the first 2 and missed the middle 2 on the last set:
91103, 93144, 93050, 91268?
91327, 93214, 93092, 91225?
91063, ?????, ?????, 91017

For info, saw the following set on 25th Jun that has changed since the previous list:
91339, 93124, 93148, 91061

Seen on 26th Jun:
91237, ?????, ?????, 91335
91325, ?????, ?????, 91213
91103, ?????, ?????, 91269
All 3 sets changed since previous list

Seen on 28th Jun:
91151, ?????, ?????, 91291

And today, 91237, ?????, ?????, 91191 working #121 (seen at 1900 at Ruislip Gardens) if Intertube site is to be believed, if correct the set has been changed again since 26th Jun.

Any help with these would be very much appreciated.

Cheers, Chris

Apparently 91237 93218 93128 91191 was formed up on 27 June and remains current. The previous formation is listed as 91237 93128 93218 with 91293 instead of 91191. The last formation I can find for 91335 has it with 93210 93038 and 91087 from 10 June. I can't find 91335 with 91237*

On 26 June 91325 93188 93402 93213 were the formation but this has changed subsequently with 91325 and 93188 now with 93416 and 91105.

91291 93408 93046 91151 were formed up on 27 June confirming @Roylang 's observation above.

Others:
91103 93144 93050 91269 from 15 June (thus not quite correctly recorded on 25th and the was in the same formation on 26th).
91327 93214 93092 91225 was correct
91017 93224 93070 91063

* Regarding 91335 with 91237, the system only lists the formations as they are after reformed, rather than before and after, so it is possible that I have overlooked previous reforms that did have these together (or there some that have not been entered). It can get a bit complicated to unpick if the request is a while after the event...

​

 

[Bigchris]

Apparently 91237 93218 93128 91191 was formed up on 27 June and remains current. The previous formation is listed as 91237 93128 93218 with 91293 instead of 91191. The last formation I can find for 91335 has it with 93210 93038 and 91087 from 10 June. I can't find 91335 with 91237*

On 26 June 91325 93188 93402 93213 were the formation but this has changed subsequently with 91325 and 93188 now with 93416 and 91105.

91291 93408 93046 91151 were formed up on 27 June confirming @Roylang 's observation above.

Others:
91103 93144 93050 91269 from 15 June (thus not quite correctly recorded on 25th and the was in the same formation on 26th).
91327 93214 93092 91225 was correct
91017 93224 93070 91063

* Regarding 91335 with 91237, the system only lists the formations as they are after reformed, rather than before and after, so it is possible that I have overlooked previous reforms that did have these together (or there some that have not been entered). It can get a bit complicated to unpick if the request is a while after the event...

​

That's great info, thanks very much for taking the time to look into them. I think 1 or 2 of those are confirmation of my fat fingers when I'm typing stuff into my phone in a rush whilst out, and the 91335/237 one will likely remain unsolved, possibly a complete mistake by me. I spent a couple of hours tonight updating my recent sightings so the next job (probably a quiet evening next week) will be to go through every set I've noted over the last month and see which have changed from the 13 Jun list. Doubt I'll have any more input until then as I'll be heading up north tomorrow until next week.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Wondering if work has started on 91341 yet...?

 

[notverydeep]

Wondering if work has started on 91341 yet...?

I understand that it has been looked again at with a view to restarting the work, as it is needed to support the last train (five in total) going into the Central Line Improvement Programme (CLIP) and would assist with four car shuttle operation when that eventually commences between Hainault and Woodford. The work will need to fit in with other calls on the fleet / engineering staff required and I don't think work has restarted thus far...

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I understand that it has been looked again at with a view to restarting the work, as it is needed to support the last train (five in total) going into the Central Line Improvement Programme (CLIP) and would assist with four car shuttle operation when that eventually commences between Hainault and Woodford. The work will need to fit in with other calls on the fleet / engineering staff required and I don't think work has restarted thus far...

Thank you... looks like it'll be remaining on my photo hit list for a while longer, then...

 

[35B]

Just a wee favour, I wonder if anyone could tell me what 1973 stock set 884 was paired with yesterday, Saturday 16th July?

 

[Dstock7080]

Just a wee favour, I wonder if anyone could tell me what 1973 stock set 884 was paired with yesterday, Saturday 16th July?

W178+885E on train 254 yesterday

 

[35B]

W178+885E on train 254 yesterday

Many thanks

 

[eta]

I have been checking Intertube every few days and haven't seen them work - can anybody please confirm they are still stopped?

(oh wow, people actually use my website for something! maybe I should make a thread for people to give me feature requests )

21549/50 remains at Ealing Common stopped, with a current earliest date of 30 June 2022 for return...

Yeah, makes sense — the last observation for 21549 in the intertube historical database was 2021-08-19. (Maybe I should add a page for people to query that...)
That said, intertube is of course very unreliable as far as the SSR is concerned, as it says on the site; there are a bunch of annoying data quality reasons why that's the case...

* Regarding 91335 with 91237, the system only lists the formations as they are after reformed, rather than before and after, so it is possible that I have overlooked previous reforms that did have these together (or there some that have not been entered). It can get a bit complicated to unpick if the request is a while after the event...

Here's the train running from the 26th June that Bigchris mentioned: https://intertube.eta.st/historical?id=train_tqfkkWbe3fRFxyjNKTSvxegeFt485tL65DWvmXKq6Aw — looks like it swapped from 91237 to 91335, and then went on to 91087; not sure what's up with 91087 (perhaps a different train altogether?), but it would make sense for the first two to have been coupled on that date!

 

[Bigchris]

I've seen the following formations recently if it helps:
91087 93038 93210 91335 (08/08/22)
91191 93260 93218 91237 (09/08/22)

(oh wow, people actually use my website for something! maybe I should make a thread for people to give me feature requests )

Eta, I use intertube alot and find it to be very useful so please keep up the great work (and looking forward to see how trainsplorer works out). I can imagine how many requests you might end up with if you did have a feature request thread but I would just ask, is there any way you can search intertube for a specific leading car identifier rather than just by going through every wtt number on the relevant line to find a set you're looking for? For me that would make a very good site into an awesome site for daily use, certainly my number 1 feature if it's possible

 

[eta]

Eta, I use intertube alot and find it to be very useful so please keep up the great work (and looking forward to see how trainsplorer works out). I can imagine how many requests you might end up with if you did have a feature request thread but I would just ask, is there any way you can search intertube for a specific leading car identifier rather than just by going through every wtt number on the relevant line to find a set you're looking for? For me that would make a very good site into an awesome site for daily use, certainly my number 1 feature if it's possible

This is now implemented (https://twitter.com/eeeeeta9/status/1558465525625327618). (And trainsplorer hasn't been touched in 3 years; that's not something I plan to work on any more, but it was fun to play around with while it lasted )

 

[Bigchris]

This is now implemented (https://twitter.com/eeeeeta9/status/1558465525625327618). (And trainsplorer hasn't been touched in 3 years; that's not something I plan to work on any more, but it was fun to play around with while it lasted )

I'd noticed it when it appeared last week, wasn't sure if it was just a coincidence. Already used this with great success earlier in the week (let down by the strikes today though lol), without doubt for me the best LUL resource on the web now. To quote a fellow enthusiast from another forum this is a "gamechanger" and I wholeheartedly agree.
Great work, and I'll be using it extensively next week hunting my last tube sets down

 

[Domh245]

Could anyone say what the middle cars were today with 91121 and 131? Thanks

 

[notverydeep]

Could anyone say what the middle cars were today with 91121 and 131? Thanks

91121+93130+93072+91131 apparently. HTH...

 

[Julia]

This is now implemented (https://twitter.com/eeeeeta9/status/1558465525625327618). (And trainsplorer hasn't been touched in 3 years; that's not something I plan to work on any more, but it was fun to play around with while it lasted )

That's awesome! Thankyou so much!

 

[drglgray]

Good morning I hope someone can help looking for remaining unit if operating today Wednesday Bakerloo LU3532. Jubilee Lu96078 & 96126 Metropolitan LU21019 & 21027. Appreciate any help. Thanks

 

[Dstock7080]

21019+20 on T410
21027+28 on T464