Long distance train arrangements once Koralm Railway opened.

[Stephen Lee]

Koralm Railway which connects Graz and Klagenfurt is still under construction until 2025, but i wonder if there are existing Long distance trains like Railjet/Nightjet that can divert via there

 

[30907]

Wien-Klagenfurt and beyond will be a good half hour faster so that is the obvious one and definite.
Graz-Salzburg should also be faster and I would therefore guess that the Munich-Salzburg-Villach EC service would be extended.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Wouldn't you expect Vienna-Venice services to go this way, and better than one/two a day?
Maybe extend Prague-Vienna-Graz service to Villach.
The Semmering tunnel will open at around the same time, so overall journey time reductions should be considerable.
Freight comes into it too, with more capacity on old and new routes to Italian ports from central Europe and the Baltics.
The new Brenner tunnel should also be open around the same time.
The Graz-Maribor re-dualling might be complete by then too, allowing more traffic on the old Südbahn to Trieste/Koper.

 

[Polarbear]

I'm sure I read somewhere that as well as increasing the frequency of the Vienna-Villach services, that some of those would then extend through to Ljubliana? These would be in addition to the (few) services that currently go via Maribor.

 

[30907]

Wouldn't you expect Vienna-Venice services to go this way, and better than one/two a day?
Maybe extend Prague-Vienna-Graz service to Villach.

Anywhere beyond Klagenfurt, so Villach, Venice, Lienz...
I would expect a minimum 2tph as far as Graz, one running fast from Wiener Neustadt to Bruck or Graz. It would make sense to run Prague-Villach (but probably not Venice...).

 

[Austriantrain]

Anywhere beyond Klagenfurt, so Villach, Venice, Lienz...
I would expect a minimum 2tph as far as Graz, one running fast from Wiener Neustadt to Bruck or Graz. It would make sense to run Prague-Villach (but probably not Venice...).

There is actually quite a lot of information on the future ÖBB timetable, since this is a PSO operation and has to be made public (even though of course details may change).

Basically, these are the plans:
2 trains/hour south of Vienna.
- A „fast“ service, nonstop between Wien Meidling and Bruck/Mur (probably partly coming from the Czech Republic). South of Graz every second hour nonstop to Klagenfurt, then onwards to Villach and then Venice and/or Ljubljana. In the other hour, this service ends in Graz.
- an hourly „slow“ service to Graz and onwards to Villach serving intermediate stations, e.g. the two new intercity stations on the Koralmbahn. Every second hour this service will extend from Villach onwards to Salzburg (and mostly Munich).

Almost all other services in large parts of Austria will be reorganized and structured along these services, which will form the backbone of the „Takt“.

In the two years or so between the opening of the Koralmbahn and the Semmering tunnel, only part of this service will operate, since the tunnel is actually more important in increasing attractiveness of the service.

There might be open access services as well, of course.

 

[Stephen Lee]

what about Nightjet/Railjet

There is actually quite a lot of information on the future ÖBB timetable, since this is a PSO operation and has to be made public (even though of course details may change).

Basically, these are the plans:
2 trains/hour south of Vienna.
- A „fast“ service, nonstop between Wien Meidling and Bruck/Mur (probably partly coming from the Czech Republic). South of Graz every second hour nonstop to Klagenfurt, then onwards to Villach and then Venice and/or Ljubljana. In the other hour, this service ends in Graz.
- an hourly „slow“ service to Graz and onwards to Villach serving intermediate stations, e.g. the two new intercity stations on the Koralmbahn. Every second hour this service will extend from Villach onwards to Salzburg (and mostly Munich).

Almost all other services in large parts of Austria will be reorganized and structured along these services, which will form the backbone of the „Takt“.

In the two years or so between the opening of the Koralmbahn and the Semmering tunnel, only part of this service will operate, since the tunnel is actually more important in increasing attractiveness of the service.

There might be open access services as well, of course.

 

[30907]

what about Nightjet/Railjet

As Railjet is the standard OeBB Intercity stock, I think it's fairly obvious that the trains Austriantrain and other contributors have mentioned will be RJs.
As for NJ - I could imagine Graz justifying a stop on the Rome/Milan service, and it would be economical for the Zurich-Graz and -Zagreb trains to be combined as far as Villach. If so you would have both services using the new line.

 

[Austriantrain]

As Railjet is the standard OeBB Intercity stock, I think it's fairly obvious that the trains Austriantrain and other contributors have mentioned will be RJs.

They will. Railjet2 is a possibility at some point, as is DB stock on some Munich - Villach - Vienna services.

Concerning NightJet: Of course, services now using the Südbahn will use the Koralmbahn in future, above all to serve Graz. I would not rule out that the journey time reductions achieved might be useful for new services, but I don‘t know of any plans yet.

 

[30907]

Concerning NightJet: Of course, services now using the Südbahn will use the Koralmbahn in future, above all to serve Graz. I would not rule out that the journey time reductions achieved might be useful for new services, but I don‘t know of any plans yet.

I can't think of anywhere in Italy beyond Rome and Milano (and the seasonal service to Livorno) which are the existing Südbahn destinations, and I don't think the acceleration would make a huge difference anyway.

 

[Austriantrain]

I can't think of anywhere in Italy beyond Rome and Milano (and the seasonal service to Livorno) which are the existing Südbahn destinations, and I don't think the acceleration would make a huge difference anyway.

It‘s only these two. The NJ to Venice, running via Salzburg, might suffer from shorter daytime journey times but I cannot imagine it would revert to the Südbahn.

Services coming from further north towards Italy, where the acceleration would indeed be helpful (though of limited effect), might be possible, but I am not aware of any plans and I don’t think it will become much easier to run international services to Italy.