Lothian Buses and ECB Discussion

[ScotRail158725]

anyone know what the script is with 1029, where would it get a new roof from now that Wrightbus are in administration?

 

[Jordan Adam]

anyone know what the script is with 1029, where would it get a new roof from now that Wrightbus are in administration?

Others operators have used donor parts from older withdrawn B7TL/Geminis to repair deroofed buses.

 

[scosutsut]

Others operators have used donor parts from older withdrawn B7TL/Geminis to repair deroofed buses.

1029 is a Gemini 2, not sure if that will affect things?

 

[Jordan Adam]

1029 is a Gemini 2, not sure if that will affect things?

The Gemini and Gemini 2 are identical bodies minus the bumpers and a few other insignificant changes.

 

[scosutsut]

The Gemini and Gemini 2 are identical bodies minus the bumpers and a few other insignificant changes.

In that case Lothian have no shortage of donors providing they can shorten it accordingly!

 

[ScotRail158725]

In that case Lothian have no shortage of donors providing they can shorten it accordingly!

they could get a roof from Ensign, ensign have just coverted to open top around 10 Abellio/Go-Ahead london B7TLs for Go Ahead Yorkshire so theres plenty of gemini roofs down there they could use

 

[OmniCity999]

they could get a roof from Ensign, ensign have just coverted to open top around 10 Abellio/Go-Ahead london B7TLs for Go Ahead Yorkshire so theres plenty of gemini roofs down there they could use

They arent just kept lying around after they chop them off. They go in the skip. 1029, at this point wont be returning and its not just down to the roof.

 

[ScotRail158725]

They arent just kept lying around after they chop them off. They go in the skip. 1029, at this point wont be returning and its not just down to the roof.

i know they go for scrap it was just something thats happened in the last month or so there might have still been some. will 1029 be used as donor parts for the remaining lothian geminis or will it just go for scrap? speaking of roofs aswell so you know how 20942 is coming along?

 

[Lothian_Bus]

465 on Lothian Country duty at the moment. Currently on the x28. Seems to have been on service 275 on Saturday.

 

[etetetetet]

465 on Lothian Country duty at the moment. Currently on the x28. Seems to have been on service 275 on Saturday.

I saw this as well! I also saw one of the double deckers operating the 61 today. Didn't get a good look though.



I tried the EX2 from Linlithgow today to see how it compares to the train. Even with railcard it's still somewhat cheaper than the train and the coach itself was comfortable. I'm from Bo'ness and the C19 is really poorly timed (and often late) and going into Linlithgow to use the EX2 might be my new way of getting to Edinburgh.

 

[Stopper]

I saw this as well! I also saw one of the double deckers operating the 61 today. Didn't get a good look though.



I tried the EX2 from Linlithgow today to see how it compares to the train. Even with railcard it's still somewhat cheaper than the train and the coach itself was comfortable. I'm from Bo'ness and the C19 is really poorly timed (and often late) and going into Linlithgow to use the EX2 might be my new way of getting to Edinburgh.

The EX2 is excellently comfortable. It has become my main way of getting to Edinburgh after ScotRail shafted Linlithgow during the timetable changes. It feels like it takes about 30 seconds between Springfield and Newbridge as it just goes by in a flash.

 

[Siemens Trains]

Still terminates there on a Sunday just FYI

I think the points being made are
1. The 113 is presently an East Coast service, not a Lothian Country service.
2. The sticker design indicating the 113 is part of the present Lothian Country offering post-dates the adoption of service 113 by East Coast.
Therefore Lothian Buses have put the wrong sticker on the bus stop flag (rather than failing to update an old sticker). Probably worth reporting to Lothian Buses and City of Edinburgh Council.

 

[ScotRail158725]

Looks Like one of the 04 plate Ex-Lothian tridents a Ensign is off to be turned into a can
The following have all gone to Shelton Motors for scrap: Tridents SN04AFA wich was 661

 

[DunsBus]

Looks Like one of the 04 plate Ex-Lothian tridents a Ensign is off to be turned into a can
The following have all gone to Shelton Motors for scrap: Tridents SN04AFA wich was 661

And which was originally 706. It only carried that number for just over a year before becoming 661.

 

[ScotRail158725]

And which was originally 706. It only carried that number for just over a year before becoming 661.

yeah 656-661 were origanally 701-706

 

[R Scandle]

And which was originally 706. It only carried that number for just over a year before becoming 661.

....and ex-Riversea Buses!

 

[Lothian_Bus]

450 also on West Lothian duties. 465 back on service 22.

 

[Weemidi135]

They arent just kept lying around after they chop them off. They go in the skip. 1029, at this point wont be returning and its not just down to the roof.

Not saying your wrong but a good source has told me different

 

[ScotRail158725]

Not saying your wrong but a good source has told me different

who is your source? omnicity is one of the best sources i know

 

[Weemidi135]

who is your source? omnicity is one of the best sources i know

Can’t be naming names obviously but they work in engineering

 

[christopherrfc]

Bus registration details

• Registration number
  PM0000002/119
• Licence Number
  PM0000002

• Variation number
  17

• Status
  Variation

• Service number.
  100,

• Service type
  Limited Stop

• Start point
  Waverly Bridge
• Finish point
  Edinburgh Airport
• Via
  Haymarket, Corstorphine, Maybury, Gogar

• Date received
  04 Oct 2019
• Effective date
  17 Nov 2019
• End date

• Supported by subsidies?
  No

• Local authorities covered by route
  The City of Edinburgh Council

• TAOs covered by route
  Scotland

Registration history
PM0000002/119 17 Variation Manual 04 Oct 2019 17 Nov 2019
PM0000002/119 16 Registered Manual 14 Jun 2019 28 Jul 2019
PM0000002/119 15 Registered Manual 12 Jan 2018 25 Feb 2018
PM0000002/119 14 Registered Manual 16 Jun 2017 30 Jul 2017
PM0000002/119 13 Registered Manual 12 Feb 2016 10 Apr 2016
PM0000002/119 12 Registered Manual 04 Apr 2014 01 Jun 2014
PM0000002/119 11 Registered Manual 16 Aug 2013 08 Sep 2013
PM0000002/119 10 Registered Manual 03 May 2013 30 Jun 2013
PM0000002/119 9 Registered Manual 31 Aug 2012 28 Oct 2012
PM0000002/119 8 Registered Manual 03 Jun 2011 31 Jul 2011
PM0000002/119 7 Registered Manual 07 May 2010 04 Jul 2010
PM0000002/119 6 Registered Manual 06 Nov 2009 29 Nov 2009
PM0000002/119 5 Registered Manual 29 May 2009 26 Jul 2009
PM0000002/119 4 Registered Manual 04 Aug 2001 01 Oct 2006
PM0000002/119 3 Registered Manual 27 Jan 2006 26 Mar 2006
PM0000002/119 2 Registered Manual 22 Apr 2005 19 Jun 2005
PM0000002/119 1 Registered Manual 19 Nov 2004 16 Jan 2005
PM0000002/119 0 Registered Manual 20 Feb 2004 29 Apr 2004
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[overthewater]

Is there changes in the works for Lothian?

 

[Tom B]

Were some of the 04 plate Tridents fitted with guideway equipment, then? I know the 04/55 B7Ls were and some 51 plate Tridents (for 2s and rush 22s), don't remember ever seeing 04s though.

 

[ScotRail158725]

Were some of the 04 plate Tridents fitted with guideway equipment, then? I know the 04/55 B7Ls were and some 51 plate Tridents (for 2s and rush 22s), don't remember ever seeing 04s though.

656-661 were but i believe that was it

 

[ScotRail158725]

Is there changes in the works for Lothian?

i would assume so, would be nice to see some changes

 

[SpeedbirdA350]

Were some of the 04 plate Tridents fitted with guideway equipment, then? I know the 04/55 B7Ls were and some 51 plate Tridents (for 2s and rush 22s), don't remember ever seeing 04s though.

Yes, 661G (SN04AFA - currently awaiting scrapping) was one of those 04 tridents who had the guided wheels. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...est_Edinburgh_Busway,_13_October_2006_(1).jpg

Any bus with a G prefix at the end, or the yellow sticker with G was setup for the guided busway.

 

[ScotRail158725]

(SN04AFA - currently awaiting scrapping)

hasnt it already been scrapped, was taken away from ensigns mid last month.

 

[SpeedbirdA350]

hasnt it already been scrapped, was taken away from ensigns mid last month.

Yeah it was taken away a couple of weeks ago but that was the last I heard so not sure if it's been scrapped yet or still waiting, thought I'd take the safe option and assume awaiting scrapping.

 

[ScotRail158725]

Yeah it was taken away a couple of weeks ago but that was the last I heard so not sure if it's been scrapped yet or still waiting, thought I'd take the safe option and assume awaiting scrapping.

looking at the moves a good 15 or so went last month so it might still waiting for it. quite sad to see a good vehicles end up at the scrapman. at least its the only one

 

[SpeedbirdA350]

looking at the moves a good 15 or so went last month so it might still waiting for it. quite sad to see a good vehicles end up at the scrapman. at least its the only one

And yet other companies run around with buses older than it and in worse shape too.