Lothian Buses and ECB Discussion

[Jordan Adam]

Bus 8 has the dest font changed. Not a big fan of it to be honest. (NOT MY PHOTO, Credits to Stuart R Barber) https://www.flickr.com/photos/barberbus/49680248562/

I wish they'd ditch that format of display and just go for the 'standard style' of having a route number, final destination and via points underneath. It would certainly make things easier for tourists. The only real reason they don't have via points is because they want it to look like a roll blind.

 

[buslad1988]

take it the service must be dropping below a sunday service if thats the case

Wouldn’t be at all surprised if they do drop to the ‘new’ Sunday service ongoing from the 29th... hardly anyone out on the buses today and it’ll only worsen now pubs, gyms etc are closed.

Also they’ve only released this coming weeks worth of shifts to staff.

They’ll still need to change routes/times on Sunday as presumably the Leith Walk tram works and closure will still be taking place.

On a side note I hope now the schools are out the buses don’t become kids clubs for youths who have nothing better to do and whose parents punt them off for the day with a day ticket! This in turn potentially spreading the virus further.

 

[CN04NRJ]

X15 and 45 are not running, a number of services are reduced to 20/30 minutes with the 63 for example reducing to hourly.

you can view the timings here https://www.lothianbuses.com/timetable/?service_name=2 by adjusting the service number from the drop down.

I wonder if a number of services (with the exception of those with low bridges) will be upgraded to double deck operation to minimise crowding?

I really don't think there's going to be a crowding problem, it's eerily quiet on all services. I'm surprised they've kept frequencies so high, particularly on the 30.

 

[overthewater]

Some of the citys seem to have freq alot higher then we would expect.

 

[ScotRail158725]

On a side note I hope now the schools are out the buses don’t become kids clubs for youths who have nothing better to do and whose parents punt them off for the day with a day ticket! This in turn potentially spreading the virus further.

me and my mates have that as a backup plan if things get boring considering theres nothing to do and ive heard same applies for other teams aswell

 

[Auld reekie]

I really don't think there's going to be a crowding problem, it's eerily quiet on all services. I'm surprised they've kept frequencies so high, particularly on the 30.

They have got to go through the Traffic Commission to change frequencies.

 

[Jordan Adam]

They have got to go through the Traffic Commission to change frequencies.

I think exceptions are being made. A number of Stagecoach opcos along with First Glasgow have temporary timetables from Monday despite nothing going through the TC.

 

[SpeedbirdA350]

I'm not suprised to see the 100 going to be every 30 minutes and no night service, but it looks like service 22, 30 etc are still every 10 minutes? Or have they not updated those yet...

 

[Driver362]

I wish they'd ditch that format of display and just go for the 'standard style' of having a route number, final destination and via points underneath. It would certainly make things easier for tourists. The only real reason they don't have via points is because they want it to look like a roll blind.

Appart from the word "via" blinds still had intermidiate points. Was via points and scrolling not a dislike of Mr Hall?

 

[Weemidi135]

They have got to go through the Traffic Commission to change frequencies.

traffic commissioner has said things can be changed at short notice

 

[kje7812]

I really don't think there's going to be a crowding problem, it's eerily quiet on all services. I'm surprised they've kept frequencies so high, particularly on the 30.

34 and 35 have the same frequency on a Saturday as a weekday. That's definitely not needed, they've been dead this past week and now that Heriot-Watt and Naiper are shut to teaching there's no need. Sunday service on these two would fit much better.

 

[90019]

The problem with mixing Saturday and Sunday services is it would involve creating all new shifts to fit round it, which would be something of a nightmare and most likely not possible in such a short time frame.

 

[CN04NRJ]

They have got to go through the Traffic Commission to change frequencies.

The problem with mixing Saturday and Sunday services is it would involve creating all new shifts to fit round it, which would be something of a nightmare and most likely not possible in such a short time frame.

The shifts I've seen appear to be 'new', but perhaps not all of them.

 

[buslad1988]

34 and 35 have the same frequency on a Saturday as a weekday. That's definitely not needed, they've been dead this past week and now that Heriot-Watt and Naiper are shut to teaching there's no need. Sunday service on these two would fit much better.

Give it a week and with the service change I’m sure they’ll downgrade to a Sunday service on everything... they’ll be haemorrhaging money otherwise.

Also worth taking into consideration that even by dropping to next weeks level of service there’s going to be a lot of drivers left sitting around doing nothing... so by implementing a Sunday service too quickly that’ll result in even more drivers freed up. They’ll obviously be expecting a vast number to be going off sick in due course but for now...

Worst case scenario for drivers is having their working week cut to 3-4 days. All depends how long this lasts and how many staff they have available.

 

[90019]

The shifts I've seen appear to be 'new', but perhaps not all of them.

Ours seem to just be normal Saturday shifts so far, but who knows what will happen further on.

 

[oldman]

If the government is paying most of the cost, you could offer paid leave of absence to parents and older people, and run much more limited below-Sunday frequencies with earlier starts. Would need work on the details of course.

 

[CN04NRJ]

pretty much all of Centrals 57 plate B9s, 369, a couple XLBs and most of the tour buses now at Newbridge. hoping since its only a saturday service some B7s will squeeze out since ive not been on one in weeks

There's a mix of vehicles of all ages/types now VOR due to the reduction.

 

[ScotRail158725]

There's a mix of vehicles of all ages/types now VOR due to the reduction.

are they all going to Newbridge? id assume some could also be kept in Marine car park

 

[CN04NRJ]

are they all going to Newbridge? id assume some could also be kept in Marine car park

Inside Longstone, I wouldn't know about other depots sorry.

 

[ScotRail158725]

Inside Longstone, I wouldn't know about other depots sorry.

im guess these are the B7s/B9s?

 

[CN04NRJ]

im guess these are the B7s/B9s?

B5TLs, B5Lhs, B7RLEs, 9700s and B9s.

 

[ScotRail158725]

B5TLs, B5Lhs, B7RLEs, 9700s and B9s.

interesting that its anything. id have expected the older ones for storage and keeping B5s out. will any B7s get out do you reckon?

 

[BobScott]

I wish they'd ditch that format of display and just go for the 'standard style' of having a route number, final destination and via points underneath. It would certainly make things easier for tourists. The only real reason they don't have via points is because they want it to look like a roll blind.

Why do they want it to look like a roller blind?

 

[Jordan Adam]

Why do they want it to look like a roller blind?

Aesthetic reasons, it's the same in London. All seems rather pointless to me as surely you'd want to show as much information on the display as sensibly possible.

 

[computerSaysNo]

Aesthetic reasons, it's the same in London. All seems rather pointless to me as surely you'd want to show as much information on the display as sensibly possible.

They should program some animations so it scrolls vertically when the driver changes the destination!

 

[Darklord8899]

They should program some animations so it scrolls vertically when the driver changes the destination!

 

[Darklord8899]

Why do they want it to look like a roller blind?

.....you know how things go.....
give it a few years and the next "big thing" will be roller blinds again

 

[Jordan Adam]

.....you know how things go.....
give it a few years and the next "big thing" will be roller blinds again

I'd doubt that, roller blinds (much like flip-dots) are highly inefficient, redundant and a waste of money given how far other technologies have came.

 

[Darklord8899]

I'd doubt that, roller blinds (much like flip-dots) are highly inefficient, redundant and a waste of money given how far other technologies have came.

Jordan, it was a tongue in cheek comment

 

[Jordan Adam]

Jordan, it was a tongue in cheek comment

Assumed so, but thought i'd give my tuppence worth anyway.