VioletEclipse
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Ideally it would but currently technological developments aren't quick enough to limit the further affects of climate change if that is the case.
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Ideally it would but currently technological developments aren't quick enough to limit the further affects of climate change if that is the case.
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Jordan Adam
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I think we could be looking closer to 15-20 years.
TheEastCoaster
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Read something on Twitter that East Coast will be announcing a date to roll on Contactless, seems the out of city areas are a hitting priority now
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Yeah we have it at lcb ,works a treat ,on the subject of B5 lh is when it pulls away in not sure which gear as display only shows D obviously varies depending on situation, is when pulling away at a round about it dose this big rev round to 2200rpm then a pause of what feels like an eternity then next gears come fine ,cars are on you before you know it ! However mid range torque is excellent,actually puts a smile on your face and they gather speed very quickly thereafter, the ex bulocks one's are the same ,572 was my fav when we had it on loan from lothian, just an example of the torque is going over wet motorway bridge expansion gaps it will spin the wheels momentarily,can only assume it's the electric motor that provides that ?
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Gingerbus1991
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If a dual-clutch variant was fitted it'd do without the lengthy gap between gears.
The LH's are OK provided the batteries have enough charge in them to help out the engine.
The 7900h singles have the same electric motor and engine yet they are more sluggish all round, something I suspect with there engine/gearbox mapping to be different than that of the deckers.
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Yes possibly agree with battery statement if your not using the brakes a lot there the battery can be low in the situation I described I had full charge in battery,however can't comment on the 7900's as I've never driven one
overthewater
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Lothian 100th birthday next year and its planning on some events to mark it:
VioletEclipse
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I'm away on the 13th of April, that's really annoying!!!
VioletEclipse
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But I'm certainly looking forward to all the other events!
Decisions, decisions! So many choices, but it looks like it's going to be April and July to come back home. I'll start booking now.
Lothian285
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https://twitter.com/on_lothianbuses/status/1071336121718722560
Lothian's Enviro 400XLBs might be getting launched next week.
Lothian's Enviro 400XLBs might be getting launched next week.
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VioletEclipse
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Next week?!! oh my goodness, I was sure it wasn't going to be until February!
OmniCity999
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They wont. And they arent ALX400's. They're Enviro 400 XLB bodied B8TL's.
Jordan Adam
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This could perhaps be the rumoured Enviro200MMC single deckers on the Volvo B8RLE chassis?
ALX400s? I hope not, that would be a massive step back in to the past. :P
They're just B8Ls, Volvo don't make a B8TL.
ALX400s? I hope not, that would be a massive step back in to the past. :P
They're just B8Ls, Volvo don't make a B8TL.
RomeoCharlie71
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I'm led to believe it is regarding the launch of contactless payments.
VioletEclipse
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That's due to be mid 2019 as far as I'm aware
VioletEclipse
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The last ALX400s were sold in 2016, but some electric or Hybrid engined equivalent would be interesting.
FlybeDash8Q400
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It's probably just a public launch like we saw with buses in the past. The whole thing is madness and ridiculous anyway
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I thought the B8L's would launch on 3rd Feb 2019. Makes me wonder why they have used the pic of the B8L in that tweet... Still, as Flybe said, it's probably a soft launch in Castle Street like they did with the 7905LH's.
VioletEclipse
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Could be, but I wish they'd announce when and where the launch will be...
Lothian_Bus
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Yes I just saw 1069 at the East End of Princes Street. No time for a photo but I was able to see it was also a CE depot allocation.
Lothian_Bus
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On Twitter now. The buses were launched at Edinburgh Castle.
Link to twitter:
https://twitter.com/on_lothianbuses/status/1072456501573369861
Link to twitter:
https://twitter.com/on_lothianbuses/status/1072456501573369861
VioletEclipse
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Reminds me of a similar scene in 1991 when the Lynxes were launched
overthewater
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So in 2027 there will all be sold off and never talked about again..
VioletEclipse
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You never know, it is possible
Jordan Adam
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Funnily enough i just said exactly that to someone elsewhere...
I somewhat agree though, this time in 10 years they won't be in Edinburgh anymore, they're just far too big for Edinburgh and the lack of steering tag axle really is a big punch in the stomach... They should have just went for 12M examples, but no they wanted to brag about 100 seats. Yet another TfE vanity project that hasn't been fully thought out!
It's a shame as they look brilliant and the specification on them internally is top notch.
FlybeDash8Q400
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2025 is optimistic. If I were Lothian I'd flog them to HKG (Where they belong) and bring in some much needed regular new ones, could be B5 Gemini3's or I'd like to see some E40D's (MMC Body) in Edinburgh
Been thinking as well if Lothian could buy some more Londoners then they could be used on the routes that don't need the full length Doubles but equally can't be singles: Some of the routes that definitely would suit include
21, 29, 49
Some Potential
1, 2, 4, 8, 12, 14, 15, 19, 24, 33, 36, 45, 47
Obviously the 29 is already one but I'm just listing them all
The 1 and 2 could go down to Every 20 with peak enhancements. Both are badly overcrowded during the peak. Some could increase or decrease. Not sure about 12. Some are probably bad suggestions (notably in the peak) but it's just from my own experiences when on them
Just to clarify the 6 Probably doesn't need these
Been thinking as well if Lothian could buy some more Londoners then they could be used on the routes that don't need the full length Doubles but equally can't be singles: Some of the routes that definitely would suit include
21, 29, 49
Some Potential
1, 2, 4, 8, 12, 14, 15, 19, 24, 33, 36, 45, 47
Obviously the 29 is already one but I'm just listing them all
The 1 and 2 could go down to Every 20 with peak enhancements. Both are badly overcrowded during the peak. Some could increase or decrease. Not sure about 12. Some are probably bad suggestions (notably in the peak) but it's just from my own experiences when on them
Just to clarify the 6 Probably doesn't need these
Hope.
Followed by disappointment.
Followed by disappointment.
When it does eventually launch do we know if it will work like Oyster with daily capping?
Jordan Adam
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The B8Ls would probably have been better suited in Glasgow, but even then i think they're rather idiotic. I'd like to know what sort of tool decided to buy them without tag axles, was it Tim O'Toole? (sarcasm). As i say they should have just went with 12M examples rather than these 13M examples which have the turning circle of HMS Britannia!
I think we need a new thread with a poll asking how many days (from them entering service) it takes one of them to get stuck!
I think we need a new thread with a poll asking how many days (from them entering service) it takes one of them to get stuck!
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