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They can't be adding these horrible dests to all buses.
SpeedbirdA350
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Welcome! I know you joined years ago but we did not know about you until now
I would expect LB to do so yes. It maybe a while, and they may go to a weekend service before going to a full schedule but they should use that timetable, although they may tweak it.
SpeedbirdA350
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Also looks like the rear number is changing too. https://www.flickr.com/photos/134298730@N04/49752528278 (not my pic) but horrible IMO
scotrail158713
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IMO it doesn’t look too bad. I suppose that if that’s the extent of our criticisms of Lothian though then they’re doing a decent job.
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I used to see that fairly often as a bus passenger on the 63, sometimes the number would say 61 or 6-blank as an alternative. I noticed passengers along the journey who only realised at the last second that it was the bus they wanted. There wasn't any attempt to show the number elsewhere, like a hand-written sheet using marker pen in the windscreen. Does failing to disply the correct number breach some kind of Traffic Commissioner rule? Do drivers report the issue back so that it can be either avoided or rectified? As I say, it wasn't just once - such vehicles were sent out for months.
Obviously the matter may be rather academic given present/future circumstances, unless the same buses are cascaded to First!
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unfortunately it would appear this is the new font now
Unbelievable, what was wrong with the old one??
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nothing its just someones decided they should be different, no need for it imo especially when its as terrible as it isUnbelievable, what was wrong with the old one??
I think the new font looks pretty similar to the one used on the Hanover displays. Quite like it myself but I agree it looks squashed on the back of those 7900s.
I like the look of it on the back of the 7900 for some reason. At times I feel like it looks like Hanover displays but it just doesn't do it for me. Shame, there was no point. However depending on the route, it might look like nothing like hanovers. This photo was taken on a route 400 (not by me) and it looks terrible https://www.flickr.com/photos/gfwlothianbuses/49778591886/in/pool-3426208@N20/
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Bit random but had a late night thought and I’m unsure if it was mentioned on here before
Does anyone know why East Coast Buses doesn’t have the TfE logo on their buses like Lothian Buses do? I know Lothian Country had them till last year then they removed it and I can’t remember why, if they are all under the same family and have linking ticket options including the tram why wouldn’t they have the logo incorporated on all the buses? I don’t know it was just a thought
Does anyone know why East Coast Buses doesn’t have the TfE logo on their buses like Lothian Buses do? I know Lothian Country had them till last year then they removed it and I can’t remember why, if they are all under the same family and have linking ticket options including the tram why wouldn’t they have the logo incorporated on all the buses? I don’t know it was just a thought
OmniCity999
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Bit random but had a late night thought and I’m unsure if it was mentioned on here before
Does anyone know why East Coast Buses doesn’t have the TfE logo on their buses like Lothian Buses do? I know Lothian Country had them till last year then they removed it and I can’t remember why, if they are all under the same family and have linking ticket options including the tram why wouldn’t they have the logo incorporated on all the buses? I don’t know it was just a thought
Having the TfE logo on buses was the brainchild of Ian Craig. Richard hall didnt like TfE's involvement in the bus network and ordered their removal. Buses that served a percentage of their route in Edinburgh kept the logo longer than the other brands.
The current incarnation of Lothian Country hasnt held TfE logos to my knowledge, it was just the previous incarnation which was rebranded as East Coast Buses. When they were repainted, they lost the Logo's.
When the current incarnation of Lothian Country started, they never got the Logos just like East Coast buses never had them. The only vehicles that will hold the logo going forward will be 1125 and any other promotion vehicles that promote TfE themselves, potentially the exhibition Dart. Any vehicle still fitted with them will lose them soon, unless a new MD likes the interference from TfE in which case, they'll come back
ScotRail158725
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a few of B7s and 552-570 still have them other than that they all changed to the 100 years thing
OmniCity999
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that'll be going too... its 101 years now...
I think 481 still has the old font hanover dests, this photo also shows Seafield on the dest of a bus with hanover screens and looks the same as the photo of 481. https://www.flickr.com/photos/barberbus/49779890596/in/pool-lothianbuses/ (not mine)
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OmniCity999
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My friend Rob's updated his fleetlist. The website he previously used wont be getting updated for the time being.
He feels it's rather messy so he's asked if you could bare with him.
The only bit he's really not confident about is 703-927 and some depot arrangements. Any sold or long term unused vehicles are deleted. Medium term unused are highlighted grey.
Feel free to suggest any amendments and i can pass them on, i'll be helping him with it as i now have some time on my hands with work being quiet.
This is the accurate to the date of March 15th. With the belief being everything will go back to this or similar.
One thing i am aware of is the Zoo branded buses not having all their wraps detailed, i'll get on this in the next few days.
Enjoy
A shareable version is available here: www.shorturl.at/cflJ9
He feels it's rather messy so he's asked if you could bare with him.
The only bit he's really not confident about is 703-927 and some depot arrangements. Any sold or long term unused vehicles are deleted. Medium term unused are highlighted grey.
Feel free to suggest any amendments and i can pass them on, i'll be helping him with it as i now have some time on my hands with work being quiet.
This is the accurate to the date of March 15th. With the belief being everything will go back to this or similar.
One thing i am aware of is the Zoo branded buses not having all their wraps detailed, i'll get on this in the next few days.
Enjoy
A shareable version is available here: www.shorturl.at/cflJ9
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SpeedbirdA350
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I have missed that list Omni! Thank you Can I ask that the Route Allocations part is put back in, as it was always helpful info.
Maybe another suggestion would be to put all sold vehicles at the bottom instead of deleting, with possible a note to where they were last sold to.
Can I ask that the Route Allocations part is put back in, as it was always helpful info.Maybe another suggestion would be to put all sold vehicles at the bottom instead of deleting, with possible a note to where they were last sold to.
Some of the allocations seem to be off, I'm sure 826/827 (07 plates) etc are at Longstone along with some of the B7TLs?
Great to see this list return - really a one in everything list (almost too much in one if you ask me but that's not to take away from the great effort put into it.)
I stumbled across this other website a few days ago when I was trying to find the old website Rob had (https://lothiangroupenthus.wixsite.com/website/family/Lothian-City-Buses) quite decent also.
Agree that sold vehicles (say only in the past x number of years) are moved to a separate section and perhaps those buses not used in 2-4 weeks are greyed out until they return/sold/removed from fleet - must be quite the task to keep up with.
Its a great list but will be tricky to keep updated so often (unless you plan to do it once every 2 weeks or something?)
I stumbled across this other website a few days ago when I was trying to find the old website Rob had (https://lothiangroupenthus.wixsite.com/website/family/Lothian-City-Buses) quite decent also.
Agree that sold vehicles (say only in the past x number of years) are moved to a separate section and perhaps those buses not used in 2-4 weeks are greyed out until they return/sold/removed from fleet - must be quite the task to keep up with.
Its a great list but will be tricky to keep updated so often (unless you plan to do it once every 2 weeks or something?)
OmniCity999
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I have missed that list Omni! Thank you
Maybe another suggestion would be to put all sold vehicles at the bottom instead of deleting, with possible a note to where they were last sold to.
It's never really been of great interest to me, but if you could collate the information I could put it together - feel free to private message me any information you have, stretching back to tridents.
I'll get on it today
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826-832 are LS based, 703, 705-708, 757, 758, 760, 788, 806-812, 814, 823-825 are LS based, 751, 754, 762, 764, 766-767, 786-787, 790-791, 813, 815-818, 822 are Marine based, other than that it seems right
OmniCity999
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I noticed that before I uploaded, then uploaded the wrong file. D'oh.
SpeedbirdA350
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Also 181, if I recall it was burnt out in Livi on day 1 I think of service, and was sent for scrap (those buses could also be placed in the "gone" section as they left the company with notes section saying what their fate was)
SpeedbirdA350
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Does anyone know what the black square to the right hand side of the fleet number on 584 is for? https://www.flickr.com/photos/156386280@N04/49800729723 (not my pic) I'd guess some sort of sensor but I'm not too sure.
OmniCity999
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its a cut out of the vinyl through the glass. All bus windows need to display information on them, if a vehicle is wrapped, these need to stay visible. believe is relatively new legislation.
OmniCity999
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Vehicle positioning isnt being updated during the pandemic.
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181 was sent straight for scrap? that was unexpected
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