Lothian Group discussion (Lothian City, Lothian Country Bus and East Coast Buses)

[Volvodart]

I thought if Scottish Government funding was provided for the Euro 6 modifications, they had to last for 5 years.

 

[Lothianbus703]

I think the most recent withdrawals from the fleet are 901-909 excluding 905/906

 

[Lothian_Bus]

From what I can see none of 601-630 have made it back onto the 44 yet. Wonder if/when this is going to happen.

 

[BobScott]

Except 170 is already removed from service and is now part of the training fleet.

Bus 22 is used by the training fleet also.

 

[CN04NRJ]

I think the most recent withdrawals from the fleet are 901-909 excluding 905/906

Taken 902/909/910/913 down to Marine (for storage before sale) from Longstone today, a few more went yesterday but I didn't get a chance to see which ones. Pretty sure 915 was down there in the car park.

 

[VioletEclipse]

Bus 22 is used by the training fleet also.

I've also seen bus 23 (BT14 DKO) on training duties on multiple occasions since March.

 

[CN04NRJ]

I've also seen bus 23 (BT14 DKO) on training duties on multiple occasions since March.

Any single deck from Longstone can and does get used for training duties if it's lying around spare. Except for actual training of non license holders obviously..

 

[317 forever]

Marine is getting its batch of the buses for the 19 and 21.

Surprised about these. Route 19 is not one of the most frequent routes. Route 21 does not even serve the centre of Edinburgh.

That said, as I shall be in Edinburgh next Friday I shall be willing to ride one on either route if they are in service by then. Otherwise I keep to route 44.

 

[Bus9120UK]

Otherwise I keep to route 44.

There's been none on the 44 for the last week, so I wouldn't expect much luck unless anything changes

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

Surprised about these. Route 19 is not one of the most frequent routes. Route 21 does not even serve the centre of Edinburgh.

That said, as I shall be in Edinburgh next Friday I shall be willing to ride one on either route if they are in service by then. Otherwise I keep to route 44.

Surprising? Definitely. Will it last? Not too sure. Am I happy for now? 100%

 

[317 forever]

I am shocked if this means none are currently in service for some reason

 

[Bus9120UK]

I am shocked if this means none are currently in service for some reason

All of the Longstone Ones are currently spread across the 3/25/33/34/35 and some possible School Journeys at times

 

[Lothianbus703]

I am shocked if this means none are currently in service for some reason

They are all still in service, just not on the 44, to find them try and go on the 3,25,33,34,35 and 19

 

[317 forever]

Thank you both of you for your assurance that they are in service albeit different routes. It could also mean surprise vehicles on route 44 such as early Volvo B5TLs or even B5LHs.

 

[Bus9120UK]

Thank you both of you for your assurance that they are in service albeit different routes. It could also mean surprise vehicles on route 44 such as early Volvo B5TLs or even B5LHs.

No worries! Enjoy your trips onboard the buses

 

[DunsBus]

The days of batches of new buses being bought for specific services are no more. I believe the policy now is that new buses go out on any service, as was the case during the Charles Evans LRT era.

 

[CN04NRJ]

A few 600s on the 2 today (strongly regretting not taking up a duty swap for a later start with 2s now).

 

[Lothian_Bus]

The days of batches of new buses being bought for specific services are no more. I believe the policy now is that new buses go out on any service, as was the case during the Charles Evans LRT era.

So on that basis do you think the new Marine buses won't just be getting allocated to the 19 and 21 then?

My memory of new buses in the 80's and early 90's was that a new batch would generally be split between the three depots. Taking the the E301-E335 MSG batch that appeared in 1988 as an example. 301 - 310 went to Marine appearing mainly on the 26,85 and 86. 311-323 went to Central mainly appearing on the 10, 11 and 16 whilst 324-335 went to Longstone and would mainly shown on the 3, 31 and 33. This pattern followed with a few batches that followed as well.

 

[Bus9120UK]

A few 600s on the 2 today (strongly regretting not taking up a duty swap for a later start with 2s now).

4/5 of the 2 today is 600s. Good to see.

 

[CN04NRJ]

4/5 of the 2 today is 600s. Good to see.

Here's hoping for my next two Sundays with long stretches on several different 2 boards

Also, 924 working out of Central on the 41.

 

[Lothian_Bus]

Here's hoping for my next two Sundays with long stretches on several different 2 boards

Also, 924 working out of Central on the 41.

So the new buses seem to be running on all Longstone decker routes apart from the 44?

 

[AndrewTaylor95]

The new buses are superb, The East Coast ones once they're built will look fantastic.

 

[Lothianbus703]

Here's hoping for my next two Sundays with long stretches on several different 2 boards

Also, 924 working out of Central on the 41.

Odd for a longstone bus to go on the 41 (I know this has happened before)

 

[DunsBus]

So on that basis do you think the new Marine buses won't just be getting allocated to the 19 and 21 then?

My memory of new buses in the 80's and early 90's was that a new batch would generally be split between the three depots. Taking the the E301-E335 MSG batch that appeared in 1988 as an example. 301 - 310 went to Marine appearing mainly on the 26,85 and 86. 311-323 went to Central mainly appearing on the 10, 11 and 16 whilst 324-335 went to Longstone and would mainly shown on the 3, 31 and 33. This pattern followed with a few batches that followed as well.

Chiefly used on the 19 and 21, but not exclusively. Certainly the days where most new buses were bought to upgrade a particular service are gone. And good too to see new batches being split between depots again, rather than all of the batch being based at one depot.

 

[Bus9120UK]

Also, 924 working out of Central on the 41.

And we've now got 450 running on the 44 I notice it doesn't have any times to go back to Balerno however, so I wonder if this is a spare journey added due to major delays

 

[CN04NRJ]

And we've now got 450 running on the 44 I notice it doesn't have any times to go back to Balerno however, so I wonder if this is a spare journey added due to major delays

Not to mention 452 on the 36!

 

[Lothian_Bus]

Chiefly used on the 19 and 21, but not exclusively. Certainly the days where most new buses were bought to upgrade a particular service are gone. And good too to see new batches being split between depots again, rather than all of the batch being based at one depot.

Yes I see what you mean. Nice to see them mixed up a bit more now.

 

[Bus9120UK]

Not to mention 452 on the 36!

I could see some of this batch moving to Longstone if this is the case

 

[CN04NRJ]

I could see some of this batch moving to Longstone if this is the case

450 has made it's way onto the 2 as well. Looks like it replaced a 600 though according to bustimes.

 

[Edirim]

450 covering for 627
452 covering for 16

Looks like 450 ran as an extra 44 out to wallyford initially though.