Milo T.K
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Apologies if in wrong place im confused on where to put it anyway whats the known status so far of there refurbishment?
The Acton facility has still to be completed and is one of the projects currently on hold.Not sure if they could operate the Acton facility now with the lockdown restrictions, but with the current reduced service, it would be a perfect time to do the work
What are the changes to the interior?another with the internal layout changes
- new LED lightingWhat are the changes to the interior?
I presume that's not essential for the RVAR mods, but would be a great improvement as the current seats are far too low. Uncomfortable for taller passengers, but also more of a struggle for the elderly/disabled to get up again!- new LED lighting
- new CIS/PIS displays (which obstruct top of windows)
- new wheelchair spaces in some cars
- possible change to seat height (not confirmed)
- deep clean/polish of surfaces
They were given an interior refresh in 2011 but I still think they are in good condition.- new LED lighting
- new CIS/PIS displays (which obstruct top of windows)
- new wheelchair spaces in some cars
- possible change to seat height (not confirmed)
- deep clean/polish of surfaces
I presume that's not essential for the RVAR mods, but would be a great improvement as the current seats are far too low. Uncomfortable for taller passengers, but also more of a struggle for the elderly/disabled to get up again!
- new LED lighting
- new CIS/PIS displays (which obstruct top of windows)
- new wheelchair spaces in some cars
- possible change to seat height (not confirmed)
- deep clean/polish of surfaces
Why spend money on new seats or armrests, the only reason the PIS displays are going in is because of RVAR, LED lighting is for a technical reason, not passenger environment, wheelchair spaces, RVAR, and the deep clean, well, yeah, more like replace all the floors because they're rotten anyway (anyone else notice the amount of tape holing the bubbles down on the floor at the moment?)
Unfortunately not; seats, armrests, moquette are things not revealed yetAny mention of armrests?
Unfortunately not; seats, armrests, moquette are things not revealed yet
I do have to question, in times where TfL Budgets are cut to the bone, why spend money designing new moquettes to keep the design team in work? When there are engineers and technicians being pushed out the door and the endless push for cheaper operational costs?A red version of Barman wouldn’t go amiss. The corporate version has always sat awfully on those trains IMV, to the point where it’s made a quite depressing ambience, which didn’t exist when the trains had their original moquette.
I do have to question, in times where TfL Budgets are cut to the bone, why spend money designing new moquettes to keep the design team in work? When there are engineers and technicians being pushed out the door and the endless push for cheaper operational costs?
They doNot sure if the W&C stock still has them
You've never been to Essex then...Weird that such a functional looking (and frankly uncomfortable) armrest should be so easy to break off.
Weird that such a functional looking (and frankly uncomfortable) armrest should be so easy to break off.
There's a surprising lack of consistency on different LU stock when it comes to armrests really. The 95/96 and the refurbished 73 stock have similar, and quite attractive curved armrests whereas the other stock either has a different design or none at all!I seem to remember at the time they first disappeared it was stated that they have to be able to break off safely in a collision, but "in the event they proved too easily removed".
I'm not entirely sure I buy this, as the 95 & 96 stock armrests feel pretty solid.
As I said elsewhere, I'm not convinced what value armrests add on the 92 stock. On the rural sections it's good to be able to sit sideways and be able to enjoy the view.
On the 92 stock they're only held on with a simple screw mechanism. I know because I accidentally managed to break one off on the W&C stock simply by sitting against it.
Curious why the S and 2009 stock have a different design, seeing that they are both Bombardier designs built around the same time