They ride roughly enough as it is, you'd have to be crazy to try and get anything more out of them!
For ride, I'd pick one over a Pacer any day. Possibly even a 323, too. (As a passenger, of course)You want to try being up front on them, the ride is worse there. They are without a doubt the worst riding passenger rail vehicle that has ever operated in this country.
For ride, I'd pick one over a Pacer any day. Possibly even a 323, too. (As a passenger, of course)
I find that slightly bizarre having spent the last 8 years being thrown about by them every day. They make a Pacer look like a Rolls Royce.
You feel every little issue with the track, they don't insulate you from anything. They also have a nasty habit of transmitting vibrations up into the body when negotiating curves.
With the oldest ones over a decade old, have they suffered from any problems structurally? The rough riding must batter the body and underframe daily. I know at that age, and often earlier there rubber-tyred counterparts tend to be suffering structurally.
Some very interesting feedback here. I have found the M5000 to be quite loud at high speed, potentially due to their odd wheel profiling; and their bogies are generally distasteful. I would think the M5000 bogies are responsible for speed limits across certain sections of the tramway being reduced after its introduction, ironically making the older T68 fleet possess some advantages over the M5000. Though, as a passenger, I’ve never had much issue with its ride quality.
Another interesting thing to note: I rode a 31xx tram the other day and noticed it sounded different to the normal M5000s. Do they (or any tram batch in that series) have new or re-engineered traction motors that would explain the difference in sound?
Oh wow, whiny gearboxes? I didn’t notice. Is it all trams in the 306x series? Odd. I’ll have a look at some point this weekend. I may not be able to “unhear” it ever again.
Additionally, some portion of track in the Rochdale line seems to be reprofiled, due to the even more odd run sounds M5000s make on it. Do you have any idea which portion of that line is reprofiled?