Mainline registration of Class 25s

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  1. TimSYoung40145

    TimSYoung40145 Established Member

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    Does anyone know if it is genuine that 25322 & 25309 are being considered for mainline registration?

    This was from an article in Railways Illustrated.
     
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    If it is true, what is the ultimate tour for a pair of Rats?
     
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    Cardiff - Manchester taking in the old haunts of the Marches, Peak Forest and Chester areas. :)
     
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    Would have to go from Chester via Warrington Bank Quay to Manchester Victoria & a mega thrash up Miles Platting Bank.

    Two other rateable tours would be Birmingham New Street to Great Yarmouth & London Euston to Aberystwyth.
     
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    Are these Class 25s capable of working in push-pull mode?
     
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    AFAIK Class 25s aren't capable of push-pull working. 33s & 73s can though.
     
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    Only with coaches fitted with Blue Star wiring and control air through connections, I would imagine.
     
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    So the former Gatwick Express stock would be ok?
     
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    I don't think they ever had control air through pipes (current day Network Rail GatEx stock excepted) as they were to work with SR multiple working, not Blue Star. I believe there are some technical compatibility problems between Blue Star and SR electrical jumpers - Something along the lines of you can use an adaptor to pass SR control signals through Blue Star wiring*, but you can't use SR wiring to pass Blue Star control signals through.

    I'm not sure how many GatEx coaches are available after NR bought their share of them.

    *We do this with 73's and blue star wired coaches. using a special adaptor jumper cable that swaps certain train wires around for control signals. It does make the Loudaphone fitted in the test coaches sound the fire alarm throughout the train if the "call" button is pressed due to the change in train wire purpose.
     
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    Thanks Hydro
     
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    A pair of Rats on the West Highland Line or to Kyle of Lochalsh would go down a treat! S&C is a must, as is the Lickey, Shap & Beattock.

    A pair to Blaenau Ffestiniog & Holyhead would be fitting.

    Also, the Pennine Rat, traversing each line over the Pennines.

    A rerun of the Mersey Ratcatcher.
     
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    Does anyone know if a pair of Rats ever visited London Liverpool Street either as substitutes for booked locos or on a Charter Train?
     
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