DJH1971
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Whereabouts will they be training? WCML?
Most probably.
Whereabouts will they be training? WCML?
No reason why they cant do test runs on the Airport - Picc and Picc - Guide bridge sections, seeing as they already sign those sections, although not much chance to get much speed up I Suppose!
There is engineering work on various bits on the Chat Moss line over the next six weekends, does anybody know what is going on?
There is engineering work on various bits on the Chat Moss line over the next six weekends, does anybody know what is going on?
Do not know sorry - but it sounds like good news - a real push so all done by December 2013.
Does that include Manchester-Chat Moss-WCML(South)?Do not know sorry - but it sounds like good news - a real push so all done by December 2013.
Does that include Manchester-Chat Moss-WCML(South)?
As well as M-CM-WCML(North) that is.
Yes.
Fully electrified route Warrington BQ to Manchester but no trains able to use it (except possibly VT ECS back to Longsight)...
Is there not a case for sending some Birmingham-Manchester trains that way?Yes.
Fully electrified route Warrington BQ to Manchester but no trains able to use it (except possibly VT ECS back to Longsight)...
Does that include Manchester-Chat Moss-WCML(South)?
As well as M-CM-WCML(North) that is.
Yes.
Fully electrified route Warrington BQ to Manchester but no trains able to use it ...
Yes.... Electrification will see both remaining parts of the triangles at Newton-le-Willows and Earlestown electrified (AIUI). At Newton-le-Willows it will be required for the services from Manchester to Scotland and Liverpool use electric units.
I wouldn't count those chickens just yet ...
Is there not a case for sending some Birmingham-Manchester trains that way?
I could see a commute hour Hartford-Manchester train being a lot faster than the present Greenbank-Manchester service.
Plus relieve some pressure on Stockport.
Or is Bir-Man presently Voyagers under the wire anyway?
Yes.
The issue was whether WBQ-Man is included in phase 1 or waits for phase 2.
Freight perhaps?You cant just leave it at that! Tell us more!
I thought virtually all the Manchester Birmingham services were operated by XC using Voyagers.
If it weren't for the already congested through platforms at Picc, would there be anything to be gained by looping Virgin's Manchester services via Warrington (alternating the direction perhaps)- this would be similar to the now-shelved proposal to operate ECML Leeds services around a loop rather than reversing at Leeds.
But wouldn't be impossible e.g. on a Saturday night for the last Euston to Manchester to run via Warrington Bank Quay & then ECS to Longsight?
For the record I can't really see the point of doing this for Leeds either!