Manchester Metrolink - Trafford Centre Extension

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    507 001 Established Member

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    It was built with provision for a single Metrolink line over it. It will be used if the TPL is ever extended to Port Salford/Irlam.
     
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    What exactly was the matter that caused the original problem there? I have often seen the four tall concrete edifices connected when passing the area in a taxi. Perhaps I might have remembered incorrectly about Metrolink involvement, thinking of a possible future onward "intu Trafford Centre" Metrolink line extension to the Port Salford (?) complex and of Peel Holdings involvement.
     
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    Please delete - information already posted.
     
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    The lifting bridge is part of the arrangements for the Port Salford site and other aspirations (e.g. Trafford Waters), to take some traffic away from the M60. It has passive provision for the Metrolink to use it in the future, but at the moment the extension west of the Trafford Centre isn't committed or funded.
     
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    There is an aspiration to extend to Port Salford, the A J Bell stadium and Irlam over the lifting bridge but right now I don't think it's any more than that, other potential routes such as to Stockport seem to be taking precedence and I suspect much will also depend on passenger numbers once the line is "up and running" albeit partially in April.
    The issue with the lifting bridge which caused the collapse was never made public so far as I know but it appeared that one of the winding mechanisms was out of alignment with the others and caused the road section of the bridge to fall, thankfully there was no-one working on it at the time but quite a bit of plant ended up in the canal and had to be fished out.
    Still waiting for daytime testing to start on the extension and for the last few days there has been extensive work going on down Warren Bruce Road near the Imperial War Museum North. Flooding definitely an issue there and the tight turn at that point still seems to be giving cause for concern - judging from recent activity there are track issues to resolve. Other than that everything else seems to be okay excepting the Parkway Park and Ride where work has yet to start clearing the area let alone constructing the site
    Think the relatively limited service at first is a real disappointment but it might help with the testing out the infrastructure. Biggest concern when fully live to Crumpsall will be the sheer volume of trams running between St Peter's Square and Cornbrook, not to mention the flaky points at Cornbrook which are so often the catalyst to service issues.
    Travelled up to Bury from my local station on Saturday and an advertised 40 minute service took 80 as a tram was taken out of service due to vandalism. Clearly that's out of Metrolink's control but to advertise delays as "minor" was to put it mildly misleading.
     
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    The Peel Brochure on Port Salford:http://www.portsalford.co.uk/rd-improvements#new-page-2
    "As well as accommodating the dual carriageway, the deck has been future proofed to eventually allow for tram and power lines to be installed to facilitate an extension of the Metrolink, subject to future funding by Transport for Greater Manchester." Who is funding what on any Port Salford extension is not clear.
     
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    We visited the intu Trafford Centre this week on the bus from Wigan bus station, so continuing onwards from there to Manchester, we took the X50 bus which gave a good view of the final stages of that Metrolink new line.
     
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    I love that Cornbrook points are still thought of as problematic when we haven’t had any sort of major issue with them for at least two years.

    They are actually one of the most reliable bits of the system these days.
     
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    Are there not both Piccadilly to Bury and Altrincham to Bury services that run in between each other rather than one route only on Saturdays, the day you describe?
     
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    I'll be intrigued to see what Stagecoach do with the X50 (which is pretty much an exact duplication of the Metrolink route) - throw in the towel when the TC line opens (or through city centre running starts), or try and compete.
     
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    It is noticeable that the bus station and the terminal tram stop serve totally different entrances to the intu Trafford Centre.
     
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    Although the X50 does (or at least used to?) serve the stop at the back of Selfridges, where the tram stop now is (or will be)
     
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    Buses can and do compete with the Metrolink at many points. It all depends on if the tram stops are located in easily accessible places for the passengers destination.

    Oldham buses follow the tram lines. The Bury corridor does quite well as well. That said, I do think the 250 and X50 will decrease slightly in frequency perhaps to every 10 and every 30 respectively.
     
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    Its useful to have bus routes that to a degree mirror the lines for redundancy in case of failures, they can temporarily use the tram tickets on the buses.

    They dont have the same capacity but it does help produce a rapid alternative until either the problem is fixed or more extensive bus replacement can be arranged.
     
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    You get a lot of reimbursement as well for accepting tram passes on the buses so it's certainly worth it if you can be in TFGMs good books.
     
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    Mention of the Bury line sees only the three final tram stops at Whitefield, Radcliffe and Bury (Interchange). The distances between these tram stops is considerable and numerous bus stops serve all intermediate points between them.
     
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    135 (every 10 mins) serves Shudehill, Victoria, Heaton Park, Besses, Whitefield and Bury.
    97/98 (every 20 mins each) serves Shudehill, Victoria, Prestwich, Besses, Whitefield, Radcliffe (98) and Bury.

    Other lines do run reasonably well though having both Metrolink and buses. I think Eccles is the only line not to have proper competition from buses.
     
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    For anyone who wants to see the trams running in daylight, testing started yesterday between Pomona and the Trafford Centre, limited number of trams so you might need to wait to see one
     

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