Marston Vale - what's gone on here?

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This morning the 0811 Bedford-Bletchley terminated short at Kempston Hardwick due to a staffing issue (according to Realtime Trains). All subsequent services have been cancelled (other than the buses) and no ECS is visible so I guess it's still there.

Any idea what's happened in reality? Seems an odd one - perhaps a level crossing issue or unit failure misreported? Or a SPAD?
 
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This morning the 0811 Bedford-Bletchley terminated short at Kempston Hardwick due to a staffing issue (according to Realtime Trains). All subsequent services have been cancelled (other than the buses) and no ECS is visible so I guess it's still there.

Any idea what's happened in reality? Seems an odd one - perhaps a level crossing issue or unit failure misreported? Or a SPAD?

Maybe the train crew was taken ill? Realtimetrains quotes "This service was cancelled between Kempston Hardwick and Bedford due to an issue with the train crew (TG)."
 

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Left at 10+52 as 5S01 for Bletchley ...
... as empty coaching stock.

Is it strange to have the same identity as an ECS at 7.50 this morning from Bletchley TMD to Bletchley? Presumably it is the same unit, so do many units have the same identity for two different journeys on the same day?
 

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... as empty coaching stock.

Is it strange to have the same identity as an ECS at 7.50 this morning from Bletchley TMD to Bletchley? Presumably it is the same unit, so do many units have the same identity for two different journeys on the same day?

The parent train which terminated was (2S)01 and approx 3 hours apart so avoiding any conflict of IDs
 

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Yesterday evening's BBC "Look East" did a short piece about driver shortages on this line, and also between Bletchley & London.
 

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There was indeed a SPAD (signal passed at danger) which is still under investigation it appears. Reports of low adhesion.
 

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... as empty coaching stock.

Is it strange to have the same identity as an ECS at 7.50 this morning from Bletchley TMD to Bletchley? Presumably it is the same unit, so do many units have the same identity for two different journeys on the same day?

It's very typical for a service to be cancelled and then simply swap the 2 to 5 and then run it ECS. The same thing happens when we run ECS from the depot directly into passenger service. The 5 just swaps out to a 2/1 etc.
 

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It's very typical for a service to be cancelled and then simply swap the 2 to 5 and then run it ECS. The same thing happens when we run ECS from the depot directly into passenger service. The 5 just swaps out to a 2/1 etc.

Yes, but the unit had already run as 5S01 earlier in the day at 7.50, then again at 10.55, also as 5S01. Is this common, or would it normally be changed to say, 5S02?
 

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Unless there a change to go as a Zulu or a potential identical headcode at the same time. It's simple to swap out the first digit. Especially if the unit is still on it's booked route.

At my TOC this happens pretty regularly.

I'd agree a potentially unique situation where same unit was ECS, service, then ESC but as the S01 had run earlier then the likelyhood of a repeated headcode is minimal

I've always thought that swapping out the first digit was logical and the easiest solution.

No doubt a signaller will come along in a minute and explain it all better.
 

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Yes, but the unit had already run as 5S01 earlier in the day at 7.50, then again at 10.55, also as 5S01. Is this common, or would it normally be changed to say, 5S02?

It is common.
 

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Unless there a change to go as a Zulu or a potential identical headcode at the same time. It's simple to swap out the first digit. Especially if the unit is still on it's booked route.

At my TOC this happens pretty regularly.

I'd agree a potentially unique situation where same unit was ECS, service, then ESC but as the S01 had run earlier then the likelyhood of a repeated headcode is minimal

I've always thought that swapping out the first digit was logical and the easiest solution.

No doubt a signaller will come along in a minute and explain it all better.

Normally I find it goes as you say; a 5A00 would be 5Z00 if needed, but that is normally reserved for particularly unique moves to prevent confusion.
 

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Yes, but the unit had already run as 5S01 earlier in the day at 7.50, then again at 10.55, also as 5S01. Is this common, or would it normally be changed to say, 5S02?
Had it on a unit I worked the other day, came off the yard as 5xxx, ran in service as 2xxx, had a fault at the 1st stop 15 mins later and ran back to the yard as the same 5xxx it began with.
 

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