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Techniquest

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As opposed to the rest of the UK, where everything is bunnies and kittens.

Quite !!!!

Sorry if I caused any offence there, it was meant as tongue in cheek. I didn't notice the lack of any such emoticon when I posted, oops! Going to add one now!

It is an interesting thought though, if all trains looked menacing on their front ends, would it have a positive effect on tackling anti-social behaviour?
 

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Sorry if I caused any offence there, it was meant as tongue in cheek. I didn't notice the lack of any such emoticon when I posted, oops! Going to add one now!

It is an interesting thought though, if all trains looked menacing on their front ends, would it have a positive effect on tackling anti-social behaviour?
Not quite the same, but I recall commenting to someone who works in the auto industry that since around 2010-ish the styling of cars had become noticeably more aggressive and wondered why. Much of it was down to making them less lethal to pedestrians who get hit by them- the "aggressive" styling (particularly noticeable on BMWs of the last 10 years or so) was what came out through trying to incorporate those features whilst still making the cars themselves stylish enough that people will still buy them.
 

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afaik the M is an intentional design feature that came up during the design stage. It’s a nice coincidence that it also works for the Tyne & Weir Metro.

The design Stadler are producing for Nexus actually goes one step further, and incorporates an illuminated "Metro cube" Tyne and Wear Metro logo on the front!

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Stadler are well known for attention to detail and little touches like this, and it's great to see that it's not succumbing to the usual cost-orientated approach we have in the UK for rolling stock on their various projects.
 

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Is the lower panel(s) below to the windscreen a sheet of glass and thus effectively a clear window behind which you can mount any kind of illumination or destination display and use black masking to hide stuff you don't want to be seen - rather like the large destination glass screens on ALX400 and E400 double deckers?

In which case customisation becomes easier as the front panel moulding does not need changing.
 

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It's here! Our 002 unit fitted with a battery system has arrived from Switzerland and is being tested on the network #NewTrains

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Any more 777’s due to arrive here soon?
Apart from the special case of 002, pictured in the previous posting at Ormskirk, it would seem that Stadler have decided to keep further completed sets at their factories in Switzerland and Poland. That makes sense as long as they have siding space there. There is no room for further deliveries to Kirkdale until more 507/8 are sent for scrap. That can’t happen until testing is completed on the 777s, the ORR approves them and crew training can take place, enabling entry into service and subsequent withdrawal of some 507/8 sets.
 

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I saw 66731 take a couple of barrier wagons from Basford Hall to Old Walton Junction this morning, but sadly had to leave Acton Bridge before the return working. Did it bring a stored 777 back to Crewe, or was it just shifting barrier wagons around? Or was it all completely unconnected?
 

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Four great examples of how not to wear a mask there!

Indeed! I have many words for people like that, but not enough of them are family-friendly :lol:

I will add that I do feel sorry for them, unable to afford their own, decent quality, face covering. Those blue things are just nasty!
 

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That style of safety goggle does make it harder to wear a normal surgical style face mask properly. Though amusing to see one of them is managing to fail to wear both items!
 

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Is 002 a long-term battery unit e.g. until the battery requires replacing or becomes obsolete, thus say, at least 10 years nominally or shorter term 1-2 years test?
 

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Is 002 a long-term battery unit e.g. until the battery requires replacing or becomes obsolete, thus say, at least 10 years nominally or shorter term 1-2 years test?
It’s a prototype so won’t be permanent. I don’t even think it’s the theoretical “full” capacity, just big enough to be a good representation of a full setup.
 

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It’s a prototype so won’t be permanent. I don’t even think it’s the theoretical “full” capacity, just big enough to be a good representation of a full setup.
It’s been borrowed from a Class 756 that Stadler are building for TfW. If the trial is successful Merseyrail will receive bigger batteries.
 

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Hmmmmm. "This has been successful - let's do something else." What could possibly go wrong?
The TFW battery is being trialled just to prove the concept of battery operation with a 777. It is not expected to provide more than about 10 miles worth of power. If things go well it will be a case of more of the same for production versions. A bit like taking 6 sandwiches for your lunch when you know that you tried and liked the first 2. The hope is that the bigger version of the battery will give a range of 30+ miles between charges, making Wigan Wallgate, Preston and Warrington Central possible destinations without extending electrification.
 

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The bigger version of the battery will give a range of 30+ miles between charges, making Wigan Wallgate, Preston and Warrington Central possible
The problem is that if a 777 can’t be fitted with a battery and 25kV equipment at the same time it would need a range of 60+ miles to get to Wigan Wallgate, Preston and Warrington Central etc and back without recharging.
 

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The problem is that if a 777 can’t be fitted with a battery and 25kV equipment at the same time it would need a range of 60+ miles to get to Wigan Wallgate, Preston and Warrington Central etc and back without recharging.

Kirkby to Wigan via the railway route is about 13 miles.

Ormskirk to Preston is about 15.

Hunts Cross to Warrington is about 12.

So, er, no, you wouldn't.
 

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